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Allen Dick wrote:
The method was to spread a spoonful inside the entrance and walk
away.  After moisture from the air came into contact with the grey dust, the
gas  came off, killed the bees, then dissipated.

Bob Harrison wrote:
In the 50's & 60's the *conconction* talked about was used to
fumigate supers in storage.

The *conconction* is not used in a live  bee hive as will kill all the
bees. Is not used to control varroa.

Andrew A. Thostenson in copy sent to BEE-L by Chuck Norton wrote:

This past Friday, the North Dakota Department of Agriculture
uncovered an illegal pesticide use in a large bee keeping operation. They
were
using a witches brew of sodium cyanide, water, and sulfuric acid to  fumigate
bee hives for parasitic mites, parasitic moths and, and stray  bees.

Reply:
So no explain to me how this is the same procedure.Allen Dick sir, did you
mix sulfuric acid to your stuff? Bob Harrison sir, it says they were using all
three and for parasitic mites, moths and bees.

So question coming to mind: ASSUMING the bigger beekeepers are into
treatments for various parasitic mite and moth and bee problems, and normally  are
ahead in timing for what to do in beekeeping, of the main pack of  beekeepers, so
to speak, for going to the next step in what works......then is  this saying
oxalic acid and formic acid ( not that some of this could or may be  called
termite fumigation) were found somehow to be failing somewhat like has  been
mentioned in the EU in rumor,  and they went to a higher level for  control,
while us/the  poor unlearned in the main pack, now are supposed to  meekly
follow..............

So bluntly then , what is coumaphos, fluvalenate, oxalic acid, formic acid,
thymol even, then, to some of these types of beekeepers using this  stuff???
I would say NO GOOD.

And I/we of course, using nothing but small cell must have them  rolling on
the floor.

Now just how are we going to feed the USA if these beekeepers fail in their
outfits; how  are they going to turn around to get off this dangerous
treadmill? If this is the group I think it is. Makes me wonder about the future  of
the NHB, the ABF, the AHPA and of course our cheap importing
packers...................................Sad......and yet look at how Rome fell  in the
end...............................................No nation stand  long that cannot
feed itself from within.

Respectfully Submitted,


Dee A. Lusby
Small  Cell Commercial Beekeeper
Tucson, Arizona
_http://groups.yahoo.com/group/OrganicBeekeepers_
(http://groups.yahoo.com/group/OrganicBeekeepers)

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