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Richard Cryberg <[log in to unmask]>
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If you want to home brew antibiotics I am not going to help with advise as it is illegal unless directed by a vet.

But, I have a nuc or two every year with EFB.  If I treat that nuc three times with terra made before a VFD was required following the label directions I see a cure every time.  I also have never had a relapse.  I do not see any evidence it is transmitted via contaminated combs that have over wintered. EFB is not a spore forming bacteria so there is no reason to think it would be viable for a long period in empty comb or on the hive wall surface.

Dick

HL Mencken said: "The whole aim of practical politics is to keep the populace alarmed — and hence clamorous to be led to safety — by menacing it with an endless series of hobgoblins, all of them imaginary. "

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On Thu, 2/28/19, Seth Charbonneau <[log in to unmask]> wrote:

 Subject: Re: [BEE-L] Oxytetracycline mini nuc dose?
 To: [log in to unmask]
 Date: Thursday, February 28, 2019, 12:52 AM
 
 Thanks for your response Randy. 2017 I saw it
 in 2 nucs, gave them the match, 2018 it was in a lot of
 hives.  I am worried about the transfer of sub clinical
 bees to a mating nuc infecting a clean queen 
 
 Hey everyone else, a little help
 please? Lot of crickets here, please chime in  
  I did get a little ribbing at tonight
 at a local bee meeting for posting this thread  ;) , ya
 that whole not hiding behind a screen name thing…  
 But let’s be real here .These same
 people, or people they know are going to want to know what I
 have done to insure I am not giving them a EFB+ queen.
 I stuck it out… don’t want to get
 it cut off.. 
 
 My take is EFB may not be a big thing
 for the sideliner/commercial,  but to the receiving
 hobbyist with a single  hive or two, without “friends
 in low places” that Vet bill for a VFD to buy + cost of
 antibiotics over the counter is going to cost more than the
 value of the colony, and that’s if they even recognize the
 problem.    
 
 So I wish to take steps to insure I am
 doing the right thing.
 How do I do that?
  Shooting spit balls from the hip
 40,000 bees a hive,  a 200MG dose
 is 1mg per 200 bees
 600 bees to a cup to stock s mini 
 great I need 3mg, 
 So 6 tablespoons of powdered sugar
 OTC  “mix “ in a L of syrup should ballpark a 5cc
 per nuc dose. 
 no brood, no comb, does it need 3
 rounds? 
 Am I any were close?
 I find it hard to believe there not a
 prophylactic mating nuc dose, or do people pre dose before
 making nucs?
 feel free to Email me if this isn’t
 something to put out on the web 
 
          
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