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Mon, 30 Jul 2007 18:33:17 -0400
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> used just 100 mg or less of vitamin C and proclaim to the world it does 
nothing. 
Quite so 
Pauling (who has some credability with me) recommended 10-20gm/day 
(of course even double Nobel winners can be wrong,probably not this time) 
>in large doses to hold the virus down while....  
Yes in acute, critical viral caused disease can be 
very helpful (20-40gm/d). Other treatment should 
not be neglected, but is there one? 
 
Back to bees 
>><1gm to 3-4gm (dependant on strength), ideally /day  
>>In reality, weekly  
 
>This amount of C to what amount of feed? 
You missed the keyword "drench" 
(sadly in this day & age most only 'skim' -- sigh) 
8 gm disolved in minimum H2O, added to 1 l HFCS or honey, 
in squeeze bottle. Don't use honey on stronger hives -->robbing 
Apply bead to top of all frames, repeat 
(~250 ml/hive  or less) 
 
>>No?  I get the sense that they (dimly) realize  
that this is 'better'  
>Did you notice any reluctance on the part of the bees to take up the  
feed laced with vitamin C? 
 
Only if I thought X was starting to increase 
Generally No reluctance 
 
>Did you have the luxury to check the vitamin C perfomance vs. control  
colonies on placebo? 
 
No.  What would I measure? As I said a ramp inspection/count 
is crude, not very accurate 
I WOULDN'T BOTHER IF I DIDN'T THINK IT IS 
MAKING A DIFFERENCE.	 
It's extra work & $ after all 
 
>Did dwindling colonies treated with vit. C make a turn around? 
 
Yes, so far. (Who knows what the fall will bring?) 
Here's a message to the nay-sayers 
I had 5 nucs, sick most likely with  X 
They did not dwindle or go ccd 
They did lose 1 month or more to thier 'health crisis' 
They are now in full sized hives, 8-10 fr brood 
They were treated twice with formic & 15-25 times with C 
Fist formic was little pads 5x, 2nd formic full size pad(3 weeks) 
(alas formic makes them 'cranky', I have to run for veil) 
 
Of course if you don't have it your criticism is nearly useless 
If you do (have it) WRITE about how you are copeing 
 
dave 
 
 

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