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Margaret Wills <[log in to unmask]>
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Sat, 9 Mar 2024 11:57:15 -0500
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Dear Lisa:

This is indeed a difficult situation, and and you're digging deep in the 
toolkit!  Were there any clues in the small improvement she noted?  
Women have very individual reactions to a pump, and sometimes it helps 
to track what exactly seemed to play into the better sessions.  What 
made her feel it was an impending plugged duct when it resolved with 
gentle massage in the next feeding, rather than just a full area?

Other pre-pumping prep ideas -- pumping after a hot shower, leaning 
forward, with the breasts hanging free and doing a jiggly "milk shake" 
massage, with quick finger-tip tapping around the breast, wakes  up the 
nerves and mobilizes  the milk forward (and this may somewhat increase 
the pumped milk's fat-content by loosening the fat globules on the cell 
walls).  And maybe do a little preliminary nipple stimulation and 
hand-expression into the flanges before positioning them on.

It's useful for her to see hand-expression that really shows squirts:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fs-WEgrLJF0&list=PLoaoJf2DnVbkxeSOkQ_pMuTtN2B6f9PnR&index=7&t=13s

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fs-WEgrLJF0&list=PLoaoJf2DnVbkxeSOkQ_pMuTtN2B6f9PnR&index=7&t=13s

Hand-expression is a great skill to have, and if she just needs a few 
ounces for occasional separations right now, it might help her feel like 
she has a backup plan while she's figuring out the pump.

Is the return to employment and the increased need for the pump 
happening soon?  Is that adding to the stress?

Even if her personal-use pump, a reputable brand, is functioning 
optimally, would she be able to try a short-term rental of a actual 
hospital pump? (Every pump sold bills itself as "hospital grade,")  Even 
if the suction levels aren't different, a rental pump's bigger, 
sometimes quieter motor with a smoother, steadier pull and gentler curve 
on the suction release, seems to make a difference to some pumping 
mothers.  And a different machine doesn't have that association with 
frustration.

Good luck to all.   Let us know when there's the breakthrough -- it's 
always informative to hear the end of the story!

Margaret Wills, IBCLC Maryland, USA

> Date:    Thu, 7 Mar 2024 06:14:20 -0500
> From:    Lisa Bell<[log in to unmask]>
> Subject: Re: Unresponsive to pump
>
> Thanks everyone for your suggestions. I had her trying everything that was suggested. She did have some improvement but still wasn’t able to empty with the pump. She called me today and said that she noticed that she was developing the beginnings of blocked ducts that disappeared with massage while nursing. She is going to try taking lecithin.  Not sure if this is the cause or the result of the milk stasis but we shall see..
> Thanks for all the help both on lactnet and with emails!
>
> Lisa
>

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