"Hey -- good thing the men have the birth part under control. They've convinced all the women that "being in control, a la epidurals" is how to have The Perfect Birth." This is getting a bit chauvinistic. I recent heard a never pregnant female physician say she wants an epidural as soon as she has labor. Never even had one contraction and already she wants an epidural. -Rob Rob Cordes, DO, FAAP, FACOP general pediatrician Wilkes Barre PA mailto:[log in to unmask] *********************************************** The LACTNET mailing list is powered by L-Soft's renowned LISTSERV(R) list management software together with L-Soft's LSMTP(TM) mailer for lightning fast mail delivery. For more information, go to: http://www.lsoft.com/LISTSERV-powered.html