Wes Crone wrote: >[log in to unmask] writes: > >>Actually, I was trying to paraphrase Schubert's opinion of Beethoven, >>but unfortunately I couldn't remember it very well. I'd like to get the >>defence to Schubert's vicious criticism. Now, if I could only find that >>Schubert quote. I think I read it in the Encyclopaedia Britannica. >>Schubert really must of hated Beethoven. > >I was a little dumbfounded (ok, a lot dumbfounded) by this posting. And you ain't alone. Unless the original poster has mistaken another commentator for dear ol' Franz, I fear this may be a case of someone trying to "stir the pot", as 'twere. It may be presumptuous of me, but two postings filled with unsubstantiated claims that are bound to raise the dander of (almost) any self-respecting CM listener seem mightily suspicious. As far as I know, Schubert's feelings toward the older man fell into the hero-worship category. Schubert could never work up the courage to visit Beethoven in person -- either that or he was never presented the opportunity -- and by the time B. got to see some of Schubert's manuscripts he was already bed-ridden. Charles Rosen wrote in one of his books that a few works by Schubert are modeled on corresponding ones in Beethoven's oeuvre; in many cases, however, he equalled or bettered the master's achievements. Anyway, if anyone thought Beethoven was "overrated", it certainly wasn't Schubert. everitt clark [log in to unmask]