Deryk Barker wrote: >The score does not specify how long the performance is to last, that is >determined by chance methods IIRC. The first ever performance lasted 4:33 >and the duration has stuck. That's a good point; the duration has stuck *as a title*, but a performance of 4'33" does not need to last exactly four minutes and thirty three seconds, surprisingly enough. Chance is one way to decide the length of a performance, but any similarly arbitrary method will do. A music professor of mine told me a story that illustrates this nicely. At one point in a course on 20th century music the professor arranged for all the students in his class to perform Cage's magnum opus. A lot of the students delivered run-of-the-mill interpretations, ending promptly on the 4'33" mark. However, one world-class wiseacre sat down at the piano bench and waited in absolute silence for over an hour before he finally declared that his presentation of 4'33" had ended. In a similar vein, there have been "arrangements" of 4'33" for everything from small chamber ensembles to full-sized choirs (with soloists!). I imagine they usually do something witty like raising their bows or opening their mouths as the piece is about to start, then relaxing as soon as the conductor gives the first downbeat. At least, that's what I would do, being somewhat of an inscrutable wag myself. --everitt clark [log in to unmask] (NOT [log in to unmask])