Donald Satz wrote: >1. I must be alone. > >2. My mind must be clear of any other thoughts and life events. > >I also take exception to the premise that only "organized" sounds >constitute music. To me, by definition, natural sounds are not organized >sounds. What you have to ask yourself is 'What is the most useful definition of the word music?'. I do not believe that defining music to be able to mean (non-metaphorically) a car revving up is useful. Its not about subjectivity and I respect your opinions etc. etc., its about communication. 'organised' sounds can be random and still music, but natural sounds can't. They are by definition, non-musical sounds. David Stewart [log in to unmask]