Thankyou all for your help. Will head off tonight with your advice. I
omitted to say this baby's apgar was 3 at one minute, 9 at five minutes, so
obviously had suction and intubation, this perhaps led to initial poor
attachment.
Had to be at work for meeting this pm, told mothers' nipple now bleeding, so
because baby vomited blood, they are expressing and bottle feeding comps.
I don't think the future looks promising.
Thankyou again,
Barbara Stokes
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First, I want to clarify, are you talking about a cyst filled with a cheesy
oil filled substance found anywhere on the body or actinic cysts commonly
found on the face. If you are talking about the oil filled ones, do you
think the hormonal changes that accompany the menstrual cycle could cause seb
cysts to flare? If so then the amenorrhoea that accompanies lactation would
actually improve them. If you are talking about the actinic cysts then
caffeine intake may exacerbate them.
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Pamela, thank you for that wonderful post on Lactnet today. You are one of
a number of people on the list -- along with Diane Wiessinger, Barbara
Wilson-Clay, and some other -- who inspire me over and over by your
insistence in actually looking both at the two humans in front of you, and at
what science you know or don't know. I learn every time you post.
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For those who haven't seen it, there is a very interesting article in this
month of Salon Magazine on bf vs. formula. Quoted are some very reputable
sources. It can be found at: http://www.salonmagazine.com. The two-part
article is in the archives under "Formula for Disaster" on July 19 and 20.
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Phenelzine is a potent, irreversible inhibitor of Monoamine oxidase, the
enzyme in humans that breaks down catecholamines such as epinephrine,
dopamine, serotonin, and norepinephrine.
While it is a good antidepressant, it has so many dangers associated with
its use, that most physicians would never consider using it.
Many foods that contain tyramine or tryptophan, nasal decongestants, and
hundreds of other foods and medications cannot be ingested by patients using
this drug or you risk a severe and life-threatening hypertensive crisis.
Because this drug inhibits MAO irreversibly, any small amount ingested via
breastmilk could be extremely hazardous to an infant. Therefore, I would
not recommend that a mom use this drug and breastfeed. Although we have no
data on its transfer to milk, any present in milk could be hazardous.
As we have dozens of other good antidepressants (excluding Prozac), why not
suggest she convert to one of these prior to breastfeeding. If she does
convert, she must wait a minimum of 2-3 weeks prior to taking anything
new...so that her body will resynthesize MAO. Otherwise you risk a severe
serotonergic syndrome.
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I haven't done any research but have asked several of our breastfeeding
employees to trial it for me, and none of them recommended it for
long-term use. They thought perhaps it would be okay for a mom who
couldn't hand express effectively and couldn't afford any other pump.
It mashes the nipple flat when suction applied and was painful if pulled
too far. THey were able to express milk but mainly due to the fact it
just stimulated the let down reflex and the milk flowed on its own.
I've used it a few times just to pull out an inverted or flat nipple,
but don't send it home with the pt unless they request it.
Kathy Birt,RNC
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I have searched the archives for some standard guidelines for how daycare
centers should handle breastmilk... but didn't come up with any.
Are you aware of any such guidelines?
Thanks!
Cindy
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I already have what is on the LLL page but it is dated 1995. Thanks!
Cindy
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Subject: Neurontin
I searched the archives for this drug and came up with a lot of questions,
but only one answer from Dr Hale and it was regarding the use of Neurontin
for seizures would the same information apply to long term breastfeeding?
This lady is looking for any information that can help her.
"I have bipolar disorder, and DESPERATELY want to breast feed, as I know how
important it is for the baby's health, but I am on medications to control my
manic episodes. I have managed to get off Haldol and Paxil, and now am only
on Neurontin. I am scaling back the neurontin for pregnancy, and have been
told by many people that I will not be able to breastfeed unless I am able
to get off the Neurontin completely, as it is passed into the breast milk."
She went on to say that she has tried to contact the makers of Neurontin.
"I called Parke-Davis, the maker of Neurontin, and they have no information
for me, as it has not been studied in breastfeeding women. I was wondering
if you might be aware of a Pregnancy Registry on Neurontin, or might have
some anecdotal information gathered from breastfeeding mothers about any
negative effect of Neurontin in their babies from breast milk."
Any information on this would be greatly appreciated.
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I hope I am doing this right. I am looking for any research on soya-based
formula and related problems and the use of microwave sterilizers and
disease transmission.
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Pamela said "Mothers are variable. Babies are different."
My motto! Along with the infamous "Whatever works!" (and the mother & the
baby get to define "works"!)
I sometimes think I should publish a little book like the "Everything I Need
to Know I Learned in Kindergarten" books, with all my pithy LC "most
frequently uttered phrases". It would include the above, plus such
oft-uttered phrases as:
Feed the baby
Try nursing more frequently
You can't "spoil" a newborn
Let him/her nurse for as long as she seems to want to
Babies need to be held (or suck, or cuddle, or be in contact with your body,
or...)
No, your baby isn't allergic to your breastmilk
Unfortunately, doctors sometimes just don't have the time to keep up with
the latest research on _____.
Look at the *baby*, not at the chart (scale, whatever).
It's OK to nurse more frequently
Babies need to learn that the world is a safe, friendly place.
Don't be afraid to nurse whenever the baby seems to want to.
Babies can't tell time
It's OK to cry - we all have these moments!
What kind of support do you have at home?
Take the baby to bed with you for the weekend, and do nothing but sleep,
eat, cuddle and nurse.
The more you nurse, the more you make
Try nursing more frequently.......
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"it really is a pleasant feeling to wake up with sweet baby breath in your
face."
Oh, when I read that, Heidi, I felt an immediate let-down reflex - and I
haven't nursed a baby in 16 years or so! There's no smell in the world as
dear as that sweet baby breath, and when it hits me as it did just now that
my days of waking up with that scent of my own dear babies' breath are long
gone, I just have to cry a little. But so thankful that I've known the
experience of it being there!
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In a message dated 99-07-27 16:59:20 EDT, you write:
<< I went to check on a mommy in hospital last week and she was leaning over
out of her bed holding a pacifier (brought from home) in the baby's mouth
(he in his crib) to keep him from crying. I suggested that she breastfeed
the baby now, giving all the reasons and listing the early feeding cues and
that even the AAP recommends this, and it is ok and even desirable to feed
the baby agian even if he "just ate" recently. She didn't want to. Later the
nurse informed me that the mother did not like me telling her all this. This
is so frustrating to me! How can we change this mindset? I guess this was
really a vent! >>
Laurie you will appreciate this comment made by a Dad in my breastfeeding
class the other nite. I was discussing feeding on request or on cue . In
describing how that is an unscheduled feeding pattern he said "you mean
whenever he asks for it even if it's every hour?' I then said to this Dad,
well when your stomach is cueing you what do you do, don't you feed yourself?
And his reply was no, not unless it's time( breakfast, lunch, dinner!) I find
it very hard to change this mindset of scheduled feeds with many, not all
parents. It is frustrating. I also try to associate it with puppies and
kittens and how they are just tucked into mom's body nursing ad lib.
Many of us are facing this frustration from what I gather! We have to keep
educating and hammering away. Our "American lifestyle" also does not lend
itself well to nursing ad lib and bedding down with baby to build a supply .
That's why we see so many breastfeeding issues IMHO!
Jane Ciaramella RNC IBCLC
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I have a real problem with a formula company putting a breast pump
(especially a decidedly harmful one) in a "discharge" pack (Let's face it, I
have a real problem with formula companies in general). I tried the pump
(for "research" purposes) Ross was distributing and it just plain hurt. I
wouldn't use it for anything except to maybe recycle the plastic. I
certainly wouldn't offer it to patients. I feel it is a double standard to
adamantly protect breastfeeding then turn around and offer a pump distributed
by a formula company.
Just my opinion,
Theresa Chmiel, CLC, ICCE
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Hi Deanne, for the record, I was in ICU for 4 days pp and the staff as
well as my family pumped for me, the twins went to the breast the next
day and we left the hospital without them ever having an arificial
nipple. They were 33 wks. Find whoever told this mom to get them on
the bottle and ..., well, you know.
I suspect that when you get the babies on the breast, your mom with the
hx of lumpectomy will do much better. Man, what a strain on a marriage,
newlywed and twins! Hope that they do well.
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I remember my OB nursing instructor back at Boston College in 1980 teaching
us all about Reva Rubin's theories of taking in and Taking hold, mothering
the mother so that she can mother. If there is one lesson from her class that
has been used day in and day out since that lecture it is this important
theory. This is one concept that I reminded my fellow nurses about when I was
the Lactation Coordinator. So, Pat and Marie you are not dating yourselves .
You are just well seasoned nurses, better than fine wine!
Jane Ciaramella
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Are you still receiving the breast pumps in the R... Formula Bags? Had
them what seems like years ago. Maybe it was. Time passes so quickly.
They were lousy. As you stated they pinched and were not effective.
Cheap, cheap, cheap. Good way to have moms quit breastfeeding. They might
think all breast pumps are like these.
Helen
At 09:41 AM 7/28/99 -0500, you wrote:
>I haven't done any research but have asked several of our breastfeeding
>employees to trial it for me, and none of them recommended it for
>long-term use. They thought perhaps it would be okay for a mom who
>couldn't hand express effectively and couldn't afford any other pump.
>It mashes the nipple flat when suction applied and was painful if pulled
>too far. THey were able to express milk but mainly due to the fact it
>just stimulated the let down reflex and the milk flowed on its own.
>I've used it a few times just to pull out an inverted or flat nipple,
>but don't send it home with the pt unless they request it.
>Kathy Birt,RNC
>
>P.S. Completed the LC exam in Dallas,Tx....glad it's over!
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Hi! This is in today's Buffalo News from the AP! Someone asked about this
recently on Lactnet and this must be what they were referring to.
"New State Rule on HIV testing seen putting undue stress on pregnant women"
Rochester - In addition to laborious Lamaze breathing and the chaos and
pain of labor, women could soon face required counseling on the dangers of
HIV.
Doctors say the new state requirement, effective Sunday, could frighten
many parents unnecessarily during an already stressful time. That's because
the expectant mother would be urged to take a quick type of HIV test with a
relatively high rate of erroneous results before her child's birth if she
hasn't already been tested by her doctor. If the mother refuses, the newborn
will be tested and mother and child will remain in the hospital to await the
results.
The new requirement is a modification of the current practice of testing
all newborns for HIV.
The regulation also could interfere with breastfeeding, because a mother
who tests positive will be encouraged to delay feeding until - and unless -
she gets a negative test. That could take a week, said Dr. Frank Gigliotti,
chief of pediatric infectious diseases at the Children's Hospital at Strong
Memorial Hospital in Rochester.
"I am really outraged about this because I think they are manipulating
the public health law," said Marilyn Menegus, chief of the microbiology lab
at the University of Rochester Medical Center. The physicians' oath "first,
do no harm" should apply to public health measures, she told the Rochester
Democrat and Chronicle.
Dr. David Gandell, a Rochester OB, says while the state's motivation is
admirable, the means is "dangerous". If somebody is in labor, that is not
the time to do a sexual history and tell them how they can reduce risk by
using condoms," he said."Now every woman will have to have HIV counseling and
urged to get tests when she comes in for labor, even if she is 8 centimeters
dilated."
The law aims to reduce the number of HIV-positive infants by encouraging
every expectant mother to get HIV testing during pregnancy - either during
prenatal appts. or at the hospital just before childbirth.
The state Health Dept. says the new policy is needed because only 53% of
pregnant women in the state now get prenatal HIV testing. Using '97-'98
data, the state determined that, each year, up to 200 of those women may be
HIV positive and unaware they have the infection. " I think they want to
make hospital testing so unappealing the OBs will just test everybody
beforehand," Gandell said. "If that happens, it would be a good thing."
Newborns in NY state are already tested for HIV but are allowed to go
home before the results are in, said Dr. Maggie Vill, a perinatologist at
Rochester General Hospital. If the result is positive, the pediatrician
calls the parents and the baby is retested.
The first HIV test on a newborn is not conclusive because it is done on
cord blood, which contains antibodies from the mother, Dr. Vill said. Rapid
HIV tests and cord blood test have high rates of false positives, she said.
HIV infection can be passed to the baby in the womb, during delivery or
through breast milk. About 30% of HIV infected babies experience a rapid
decline, dying by age 5 or 6, Strong Memorial's Gigliotti said. the others
have a slower disease process similar to AIDS in adults.
Early diagnosis is important because the drug AZT can prevent
transmission to the infant.
Katie Constantino
LLLL of Amherst, NY Waiting for scared Moms to start calling!
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If anybody knows of any (other than the standard milk storage guidelines by
time & temp.), let me know too please, right away, asap, tout de suite. I'm
doing a staff training this Friday at a daycare center, & if there is such a
thing I'd like to know before I go in there & blather on.
Thanks,
Cathy Bargar, RN, IBCLC Ithaca NY
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Date: Wed, 28 Jul 1999 18:24:06 -0700
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This is outrageous! What ever happened to civil rights? Is NY becoming
a communist community? I don't see how it can be legal to keep a woman
and her new baby in the hospital just to wait and see if the lab is
incorrect. If the pair appear to be in good health, they are in danger
of contracting a nosicomial infection just by being there. Who is
supposed to pay for these extended stays? Who will take care of other
sibs at home? Once again, women and children are paying the price for
society's ills. I wonder if a mom can sue because she was denied the
right to bf because of an erroneous test? Now her baby will be exposed
to the real dangers of formula instead of the small possible exposure to
HIV from breastmilk. New Yorkers, please, write your legislators and
demand that this prejudicial, unhealthful, damaging law be repealed
before anyone suffers the emotional and physical damage sure to come,
for no reason, from this travesty of a law.
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Dallas Texas USA
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Date: Wed, 28 Jul 1999 17:18:39 -0700
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In our town the buses sport local poetry inside them. My husband sent
this one to me today and I think it is lovely!
Birth
When they were wild.
When they were not yet human.
When they could have been anything.
I was on the other side ready with milk to lure them,
and their father too, each name a net in his hands.
Louise Erdrich
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Monique
Noah Schaefers 6/97
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Date: Wed, 28 Jul 1999 20:54:14 -0400
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I'm still no-mail, but I couldn't resist:
I got an infuriating e-mail this morning from a client whose
*pediatrician/pediatric gastroenterologist* told her there were no
reasons to bf past 3 mo. (The client wasn't infuriating; she was
savvy.) My kids' responses:
Eric (16): I should write him a letter and tell him it's ridiculous
that a 16 year old boy should know more about bfing than a
pediatrician does.
Scott (19): You should take in a stack of studies - a tangible stack,
many inches thick - and plunk it on the desk of anyone who doesn't
believe it matters.
Scott's idea got me to thinking of how high the *complete* stack would
be. Marsha Walker says there are 13,000 supportive studies. Figure
an average length of 3-4 pp per study. Do both sides of a page, so
that means an average of 2 sheets of paper. At 500 sheets to a ream,
that's 250 studies per ream, requiring a total of 52 reams. Reams are
about 2" (5 cm) thick. That's a total of 104" or 8 ft 8" (2.6 m) - a
height that would burst through the ceiling of the average room, push
through the joists and floor, and allow a person on the second floor
to read the top few studies without having to go downstairs.
Now *that's* a book!
Diane Wiessinger, MS, IBCLC, LLLL Ithaca, NY
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Date: Wed, 28 Jul 1999 21:05:22 -0400
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I have tried without success to locate any research, or even anecdotal
evidence, regarding the use of EBM to treat eye infections. Does anyone
know of any?
Thanks for your help.
Lori Lerman, RN, IBCLC
Winchester, MA
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Date: Wed, 28 Jul 1999 21:09:18 -0400
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Thought this may interest some of you:
Drugs and Toxic Chemicals in Breast Milk
by Dr. Janusz Z. Byczkowski
http://members.aol.com/JanuszB/milkpage.htm
Cindy Curtis,RN,IBCLC
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Date: Wed, 28 Jul 1999 19:44:27 -0600
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The Rio Grande Zoo in Albuquerque welcomed a baby giraffe last Tuesday.
The baby giraffe weighed 150 lbs. and there was a cute article in the
local newspaper.
Now get this, the *first* thing mentioned about this baby giraffe is,
" . . . and he is nursing fine." Imagine if every human baby in the
world received as much attention as this giraffe did for doing something
so normal and so important to survival--breastfeeding!
I wish people paid as much attention to breastfed babies and worried if
they weren't "nursing well."
This zoo is very "breastfeeding friendly" and they will bring a
traveling mammal display with babies to our World Walk.
Heidi S. Roibal
Albuquerque, NM
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Have a mom who called this evening. Has a very bad upper respiratory
infection and was prescribed Rondec DM (Cardec DM). This is a prescription
antihistamine. Generally these medications are OK. But I always like a
reference when talking with a mom. May be new, not found in my 1995 Hale and
my other resources are at work.
Thanks, Laura Burnett Fort Worth, TX
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Date: Wed, 28 Jul 1999 20:45:21 -0500
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Actually, they are still teaching Rubin's theories. If you look in Olds'
Maternal Newborn Nursing: A family centered approach (1996), it's in there.
According to my text, the research was published in 1961, so it wasn't even new
in 80! :-)
I am off on vacation for 2 weeks, and no mail. Feel free to respond via my
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> I remember my OB nursing instructor back at Boston College in 1980 teaching
> us all about Reva Rubin's theories of taking in and Taking hold, mothering
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Date: Wed, 28 Jul 1999 22:07:05 EDT
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Subject: Re: LACTNET Digest - 25 Jul 1999 to 26 Jul 1999 - Special issue
(#199...
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Excuse me carol brussel perhaps you need to refer to Hales new edition and
the AAP, which contraindicates lithium with breastfeeding. I have worked with
many patients using Lithium and would not want my baby receiving 30-40 % or
more of my dose in the immediate pp period if I was an uncontrolled Manic who
probably would not come in to have levels tested regularly, due to flight of
ideas and activity. ~lithium is a very toxic drug to many body systems. I
should rephrase mom and baby need to be closely monitored, and there are
safer alternatives, thankyou, maybe you should have used capitals to express
your anger... Lisa Mooney
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Date: Wed, 28 Jul 1999 22:10:47 EDT
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Rachel, good points, as lack of sleep and food can also leave you feeling
very ungrounded and off in space.. With a good meal and nights sleep, a whole
new perspective for that new mom . Lisa Mooney
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Date: Thu, 29 Jul 1999 13:09:20 +1000
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Hi all,
Just found this wonderful site, from a midwifery list. If everyone clicks
on the sponsors logo, they donate enough per click to feed one hungry
(breastfeeding, of course!) person per day.
If everyone visits regularly, we could make a real difference!
http://www.thehungersite.com/
Best wishes
Susan in Australia
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Date: Wed, 28 Jul 1999 23:32:40 -0400
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This is a question for LCs/LLLs/Pump Rental Stations in Australia:
I have a mother currently nursing a 3-month-old. She'll be moving back to
Melbourne in late November and wants to find out if she were to purchase and
use the kit for connecting to a Medela Lactina in the pumping room at her
worksite here whether the kit would be just as useful in Australia. In
other words, are Lactinas available for rent in Australia? And if so, are
the connecting kits completely compatible (despite the electric plug
differences between US and Australia)?
Thanks in advance for any information!
Janna Frelich, LLL Leader (Boston, Massachusetts)
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