Barbara: I think there are some strong clues pointing to the need to improve positioning and attachment. > mum's nipples getting very sore- graze one one. I am not sure what graze one one means, but 'very sore' is not normal. >Baby appeared to be well attached and good positioning, suckling effective >but short periods, becoming frustrated. I take it this means the baby was coming off after a short time, crying or agitated. Not normal. Poor positioning and attachment explains both of these. Heather Welford Neil NCT bfc Newcastle upon Tyne UK *********************************************** The LACTNET mailing list is powered by L-Soft's renowned LISTSERV(R) list management software together with L-Soft's LSMTP(TM) mailer for lightning fast mail delivery. For more information, go to: http://www.lsoft.com/LISTSERV-powered.html