Jean, I really like this idea. Wil try it tommorrow with client who has had no success with pumping, heat, cold, cabbage, and at 5 days pp is still very swollen. I tell all my clients that engorgement has less to do with "Milk coming in" than it has to do with body reabsorbing the extra fluids of pregnancy...they just tend to happen at the same time. I see this frequently from mothers who deliver at the local hospital where some nurse(s) are reccommending not putting baby to breast any more often than 3 hr intervals as "there is no milk there anyway...it takes the breast 3 hours to make more" Needless to say these moms come home supplementing, or at best, get home, birth drugs wear off baby, and babe who was content to feed every three hours in hospital is screaming and hungry. Thanks for this new idea. This mother was very concerned about dehydration, and started supplements when babes mouth became dry, but does NOT want to supplement any longer than absolutely neccessary. Laura *********************************************** The LACTNET mailing list is powered by L-Soft's renowned LISTSERV(R) list management software together with L-Soft's LSMTP(TM) mailer for lightning fast mail delivery. For more information, go to: http://www.lsoft.com/LISTSERV-powered.html