I like the cumberbund word but I wouldn't think lots of folks would know what that was. AT least not in my neck of the woods. I usually say "melt" the baby right into you. Now for the nipple sandwich technique, here in New Orleans I say "like the baby is taking a bite out of a big po-boy or muffaletta." [po-boy or poor boy sandwich, aka hero sandwich - here "French" bread is used. Muffaletta pr. muffalotta is a very large Italian sandwich.] Ah, culture. Laurie Wheeler, RN, MN, IBCLC Violet Louisiana, USA - suburb of New Orleans, where I was born. _______________________________________________________________ Get Free Email and Do More On The Web. Visit http://www.msn.com *********************************************** The LACTNET mailing list is powered by L-Soft's renowned LISTSERV(R) list management software together with L-Soft's LSMTP(TM) mailer for lightning fast mail delivery. For more information, go to: http://www.lsoft.com/LISTSERV-powered.html