Carol writes: < .....was told to feed "tummy to tummy" which she "heard" as navel to navel. Thus, her baby's mouth was so far away from her nipples that he had to send a letter to get a letdown. So, I prefer tummy to chest or simply chest to chest.> Stimulated a thought: what about some mention of ribs? "Ribs to ribs"? Or forget the alliteration and say "Chest to ribs"? "Hug his chest, belly button and knees close to your ribs"? "Snuggle his frontside right up to your ribs"? "Belly up to the bar -er - ribs, that is"? Breasts maintain a lot closer anatomical and semantic relationship to mom's ribs than to her tummy, or stomach, or navel, or abdomen (which is what many, many people are referring to when they say "tummy".) And postpartum tummies are often in a state of flux, or flub, so to speak. Ribs stay pretty much in the same location and make a stable landmark. And ribs are pretty much ribs, the world over, the same all our life as they were from our first understanding of them as a child. After last week's withdrawal symptoms, just some thoughts, at 3 a.m. when all's quiet and I'm getting my Lactnet "fix" before the "school's out-more grannying time" begins! K. Jean Cotterman RNC, IBCLC Dayton, Ohio ___________________________________________________________________ Get the Internet just the way you want it. Free software, free e-mail, and free Internet access for a month! Try Juno Web: http://dl.www.juno.com/dynoget/tagj. *********************************************** The LACTNET mailing list is powered by L-Soft's renowned LISTSERV(R) list management software together with L-Soft's LSMTP(TM) mailer for lightning fast mail delivery. For more information, go to: http://www.lsoft.com/LISTSERV-powered.html