James Tobin wrote: >...Boulez, who called this a work for "cleaning ladies,"... There was, for a time, a thread on elitism and CM. It is talk of the above kind which, I believe, is not as rare as it should be, that gives a flavor of elitism and snobbery to CM, in the eyes of some --unjustly and very unfortunately. PS Our cleaning lady listens to Mozart, Beethoven, et al. when she is working. I do not know if she has heard of Boulez, but I doubt it. Peter Harzem