<< She has never been to a specialist for her celiac's (I suggested that she find one) but has been to conferences etc to find out as much as she can >> you know me, i hardly ever quote, but this really begins to frighten me, this avoidance of medical help. i know, not all doctors are the god-like creatures like some we are accustomed to meeting on lactnet, but still. get a diagnosis, for heaven's sake (good advice, Dana, but she should get a real diagnosis before you start advising her). carol brussel IBCLC