Simon Corley ([log in to unmask]) wrote: >Deryk Barker wrote: > >>Furtwaengler said something to the effect that Brahms was the first >>great composer who had practically no influence on what came after. > >It's not easy to agree with this statement. For example, wasn't >Schoenberg influenced as much by Brahms than by Wagner or Mahler? Actually I have no difficulty agreeing with it at all. Sure, there were composers influenced by Brahms - Dvorak is an obvious example, at least in his 6th Symphony - but these were, I'd argue, minor issues; how exactly did he influence Schoenberg in your opinion? Deryk Barker [log in to unmask]