Ok folks.
herbs have long been used as galactagogues long before domperidone and
metaclopramide were thought of. I am not knocking their use or efficacy and
need for both.
many do have properties that help fix prolactin levels , some are diuretic
or antispasmotic in nature. Now some women experience pains on MER and most
likely need an antispasmotic to help release muscle spasm.
some galactagogues change the composition of milk; evening primrose oil and
borage oil add essential fatty acids to the breastmilk. galactagogues do not
work only as a placebo any more than digitalis is a placebo. did you know
that they were herbs as well as snake root- where we get rawulfia- comadin
type drugs. ( ok docs i am sure you know that) yes, some things may only
give confidence but why not. we all sometimes feel like we need a confidence
booster. Alfalfa is given by friends of mine to help there animals produce
more milk. One is a dairy farmer, the other raises goats for milk and feed.
the dairy farmer laughed when i gave his wife a combination of alfalfa and
fenugreek, stating that alfalfa is what he gave his cows. alfalfa contains
some phytoestrogens among other things.
Alfalfa is in my milk production protocal, as well as other herbs- it can be
found in the archives or email me privately. I have found many herbs work as
galactagogues. I also know that they have side effects and we need to know
how they interact with other herbs and drugs. i have a long list of milk
boosters. some are available in the spice isle of the grocery, or a helath
food store.
seeds usually go for 1 tsp to 240 mls of water and let steep fir 10-20
minutes.
capsules usually 2-3 three times a day. Tinctures usually 3 mls 3x daily.
Hope this will help. i have more documented information but the moms will
have me for writing a rambling book. Not a botanist but i love my herbs.
Mechell turner, m.ed. ibclc,
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> Anyone know how to increase fat CONTENT in milk? Increasing fat intake in
> mom's diet changes the fatty acid composition of the milk, but doesn't
> increase fat necessarily unless she's already in starvation mode, and although
> this mom is thin, she's not excessively so, and she eats far more than I do.
> (No comments from the peanut gallery here....)
>
> Jan
Jan,
I know what you say above is true. I also know that I have had several
moms where EVERYTHING else checked out O.K. but I discovered they were
on a very low or no fat diet (took in plenty of food just no fat). I
explained to them what the data showed as far as increasing the fat in
their diets verses increasing fat in their milk, but also confided that
I was unsure of any thing else to do but suggesting they add some fat to
their diet. To date this has helped each mother that I have run across
in this particular situation (probably 5 or 6 moms). Now I just tell
them that I'm not sure why but other moms I have worked with in the same
situation have found this very helpful.
Cheryl Leipold BS, IBCLC
Newnan, GA (grit country) :)
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carol b says:
<< jan, i teach moms to do breast massage before nursing and compression
during
nursing to increase fat content. this seems very crucial for preemie moms,
where you know you can't increase the volume much, so increasing the caloric
content is a good strategy.
>>
Yup, we're doing this.
Jan
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Date: Mon, 14 Dec 1998 16:26:57 -0500
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Subject: Lactational Amenarrhea and the Roman Catholic Church
Has anyone heard that using the LA method is against the teachings of
the Roman Catholic Church? A hospital run by the RC church here in
Ohio has banned the teaching of LA after a nurse? complained that birth
control was being taught. I had thought that this was a natural method
of child spacing which would not be opposed by the RC church. Does
anyone have any references that I could use to show that the church
does not oppose the LA method? TIA
Ann Twiggs, RD, LD, IBCLC
Columbus, Ohio
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Date: Mon, 14 Dec 1998 13:32:47 -0800
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Hi All,
How is life on Lactnet? I miss you all terribly, and will be back shortly.
Our new house is great, but the previous owners really left a mess and it
needs a lot of work so guess what I am doing?? :) Also, I am very busy
helping my best friend - she is pregnant with twins and is on complete
bedrest as she is not due until end of January and has tried to go into
labor 2 times now. :0 This brings me to a need for an address. Does
anyone have Karen Gramada's e-mail? I used to have it, but it got dumped
when we moved (for some reason our 'puter disliked the trip over to the new
house and we lost a bunch of stuff of the harddrive...go figure.).
Thanks a bunch!
Hope everyone has a good holiday season...We are planning a good one for our
first Christmas in our first home! :) Hubby even put lights on the house -
something we have never done before!
Take care everyone, and TIA!
Love and hugs,
Jay
Jay Simpson, CLE
Sacramento (State Capital), California, West Coast, USA
"No Miracles performed here, just a lot of love and hard work."
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In a message dated 12/14/98 3:28:50 PM Central Standard Time,
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<< I also know that I have had several
moms where EVERYTHING else checked out O.K. but I discovered they were
on a very low or no fat diet (took in plenty of food just no fat). I
explained to them what the data showed as far as increasing the fat in
their diets verses increasing fat in their milk, but also confided that
I was unsure of any thing else to do but suggesting they add some fat to
their diet. >>
Do brownies count? She's eating lots of those....not really, but after she
told me what she does eat -- yes, I think she's eating enough fat. But I can
check that again too....
Jan
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I had to share this with you all. I just completed three performances of a
Christmas pageant at my church in which I, my husband, and my two-year old son
played Mary, Joseph and Jesus.
We all had to freeze for a "tableau" for the duration of a song with 10 people
on stage including the 3 wise men, caravan, etc. focusing on us, the holy
family. How do you think I got my two-year old son to stay still through all
this? Well by nursing him, of course. In front of three audiences of about
400 people. I don't know how many people realized what I was doing. But I
have to say that was the most public breastfeeding I have ever experienced!
Happy Holidays everyone.
-Pamela Metz, CLE
San Diego, CA
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Dear Folks:
Just a bit to add to Wendy Jones' fine post about using dilute solutions of
these common household substances to alter skin pH and reduce the growth of
thrush. Vinegar water can be a cheap and easy diagnostic measure if a mom
can't get to a care provider or if her care provider doesn't believe it is
thrush unless the classic sign of white spots in the baby's mouth is obvious.
Sometimes a mother can get relief overnight with this. I recommend 1
tablespoon vinegar in 1 cup (8 ounces) of comfortable temperature water. Rinse
after every feed, and also rinse the baby's mouth after every feed. Vinegar is
a food, and is diluted enough with the water that mother and baby are
comfortable.
If she is relieved with this rinse, then for sure it is thrush. Warmly,
Nikki Lee
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Regarding Barbara's story...
Her client's situation could have taken place in my city or probably other
places as well. IMO, the "fault" for this situation lies squarely in the
SYSTEM, or to be more accurate, the LACK of a system for appropriately
taking care of breastfeeding women!!! And YES, I'm shouting!
Ohio has official statewide policies including "recommendations and
competencies" for peer counselors working in the public health system. (And
for breastfeeding coordinators.) The PC policies include the requirement
that peer counselors report to a supervising IBCLC or RN or RD. Since I do
not work in the public health system at the present time, anyone interested
should contact Ann Twiggs at [log in to unmask] [Ann, forgive me if
you're deluged by requests.]
The 1997 Perinatal Guidelines published jointly by ACOG and AAP specify that
before hospital discharge:
* "The baby has completed at least two successful feedings, and
documentation has been made that the baby is able to coordinate sucking,
swallowing, and breathing while feeding.
* "The breastfeeding mother-baby dyad should be assessed by trained staff
regarding nursing position, latch-on, adequacy of swallowing, and mother's
knowledge of urine and stool frequency." (pg 167)
I know a lot of nurses and doctors who have a hard time documenting a baby's
ability to "coordinate sucking, swallowing and breathing while feeding."
Around here, peer counselors are not trained in these areas, nor are they
considered part of the "trained staff" in hospitals. They are fabulous when
it comes to social support for normal breastfeeding. Again, PCs are not
interchangeable with IBCLCs. Just like doulas are not interchangeable with
midwives.
I wasn't on the scene for this particular baby, but I've done my share of
mopping up for the "broken system" for too many years. Why else would I be
renting breastpumps on Christmas eve, for crying out loud?? Breastfeeding
is IMPORTANT! Important enough to hire enough lactation consultants
(IBCLCs) to do the job. And train the RN's in the basics. And train the RDs
and MDs and the housekeeping staff, if that's what it takes. AND have peer
counselor programs for the mother-to-mother support. And PAY every provider
appropriately for their particular level of skill.
Read Jane Heinig's editorial in the December 1998 issue of the Journal of
Human Lactation entitled "Closet Consulting and other Enabling Behaviors"
for more on this subject.
I'm not done commenting on this.
Linda J. Smith, BSE, FACCE, IBCLC
Bright Future Lactation Resource Centre
Dayton, OH USA
http://www.bflrc.com
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Date: Mon, 14 Dec 1998 17:19:35 EST
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Dear Everyone:
This is in response to Susan's queries about GV dosage. If nipples, areolas,
and baby's mouth are painted on Monday, then the next dose would be Thursday.
Unless the baby has washed it all off by Wednesday. It is working as long as
the purple color is strong. If there is no improvement after two doses, may
need to move to Diflucan. I don't really like nystatin all that much, although
if that is what the pediatrician has prescribed, of course that is what we
will use. Moms report nystatin is sticky when applied to their nipples and
they end up being stuck to their bras or breast pads. This can be painful to
remove, unless they soak with warm water first. Also some babies get very
fussy or gassy or don't like the taste.
I am wondering, since thrush is so ubiquitous, if everyone doesn't have
their own type based on their personal chemistry, life and diet? There are so
many different remedies and combinations of drugs that work for different
people. And I appreciate RAINBOWpeds comment about treating for 4 weeks. Maybe
if we did that, women wouldn't need to be treated for a while, and then get
another round in a few weeks. Warmly, Nikki Lee
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To make a milk boosting tea, use 1 teaspoon *each* of fennel, cumin and
dill, steeped in 8 oz of boiling water for 15-20 minutes. Drink one
cup, three times a day. Results should be noticable within 24 hours.
Can increase or decrease frequency as needed.
I am not a medical professional, however, this concoction has worked for
me and other nursing moms. I'm also fond of using a fenugreek tea. Use
a teaspoon of whole fenugreek. Steep in boiling water for 15 minutes or
so and drink three or more times a day.
These are all foods and can be purchased in your grocers spince aisle,
or for better quality and freshness, look for them at a whole foods, or
herbal shop.
Good Luck,
Erin
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Jeff Kuchta@MOORECORP
12/14/98 06:16 PM
I'm hoping some of you can give me advise ASAP. while helping a mother get
her 9 day old latched on, a few drops of milk dribbled out of the babies
mouth and onto my index finger. I continued working with the mother for the
next 30 minutes or so. And washed my hands well after finishing. The next
day I noticed a small cut at the base of my nail on my index finger. I
don't know if the cut was there while I was helping the mom or not; or if
any milk came into contact with it or not. Since I'm still nursing my 3
year old, I was concerned about exposing her to danger if I continue to
breastfeed. This mom was not at high risk and the baby was tested at the
hospital. The mom believes the baby is negative. I've consulted with my
doctor and several LC's: all of whom said it would be safe to continue to
nurse.
What do you think?
Thanks
Bridget Kuchta LLLL, DA, WIC - Peer Counselor
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Date: Mon, 14 Dec 1998 18:38:40 EST
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<< Has anyone heard that using the LA method is against the teachings of
the Roman Catholic Church? A hospital run by the RC church here in
Ohio has banned the teaching of LA after a nurse? complained that birth
control was being taught. I had thought that this was a natural method
of child spacing which would not be opposed by the RC church. Does
anyone have any references that I could use to show that the church
does not oppose the LA method? TIA
>>
Nonsense. The Roman Catholic Church approves natural family planning when
there are "grave" reasons for spacing a family. See the following links for
more information:
Couple to Couple League : http://www.ccli.org
(In fact the founders, John and Sheila Kippley would be very interested, I'm
sure, in any Catholic hospital that would state that the sympto-thermal method
of birth control is against the Church's teaching.)
Sheila is the author of Breastfeeding and Natural Family Planning
see also:
http://listserv.american.edu/catholic/
These are general Catholic information links that include Couple to Couple
League as an approved Catholic link.
Ruth Scuderi
Westfield, MA
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Date: Mon, 14 Dec 1998 18:54:37 -0500
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Newman's axiom. If they can't find a reason for it, they will blame the
breastfeeding. Now, all of us out there know many many women who have
breastfed. Is anyone aware of anyone that had severe diarrhea caused by the
hormones of breastfeeding? Get real!
What you can do if they tell the mother she has to stop breastfeeding? You
tell the mother to ask for an explanation how the hormones could cause
diarrhea in the mother, and you tell the mother the decision is hers, not
someone else's.
Wouldn't hurt to drink her milk. Why not?
Jack Newman, MD, FRCPC
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Date: Mon, 14 Dec 1998 17:31:23 -0600
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The Catholic Diocese of Austin sponsors natural family planning classes, and
employs a couple who teach it in local parishes. A letter addressed to
Bishop John McCarthy, Austin, Tx would probably reach them.
Barbara Wilson-Clay, BSEd, IBCLC
Austin Lactation Associates, Austin, Texas
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Date: Mon, 14 Dec 1998 18:34:26 -0600
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> Health care is a tiered system, and
> there must be protocols built into this sort of practice which assures that
> complicated cases receive clinical care and follow-up.
Well said, Barbara. I couldn't agree more.
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Jeanne Mitchell, Austin, TX
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Dear Lactnetters,
I have sure had a run on weird breastfeeding situations this past month or
two. I thank you for all of your VERY helpful responses.
Today I received a call from a mom who has had 4-5 weeks of burning pain
inside of her breasts, along with cracked and sore nipples. It was treated at
a classic yeast problem , and the physician chose to use nystatin cream. The
pain has really not improved much, with continuing burning pain in both
breasts.
Five days ago, mom noticed that her baby began to throw up "lots of pure
blood" after her feeding. Mom was quite alarmed, but the baby didn't seem ill
or have symptoms. She pumped with a PIS to determine if blood was in her milk
- she states that in the early morining, 25 ccs of pure blood was pumped from
her left breast, followed by 25 ccs of breastmilk. The right breast produced
breastmilk. In the afternoon, 10 ccs of blood was pumped. Mom emphatically
states that she is pumping only blood and that breastmilk comes out AFTER the
blood.
Today, now both breasts are pumping blood, and the baby is becoming extremely
agitated from throwing up large quantities of blood. Mom has resorted to just
pumping (on advice from her ped) to keep up her milk supply, but desperately
wants to continue nursing for one year. She is now on oral nystatin, provided
from the OB offfice.
My question - is this phenomena caused by broken blood vessels caused from
intraductal thrush? Shouldn't this mom be using diflucan? Has anyone had
patiens with this experience, and what did you do?
Thanks so very much,
Brenda Phipps, BS, IBCLC
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Date: Mon, 14 Dec 1998 18:50:16 -0600
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Jan,
When there is a well-documented log of intake, and baby continues to
have poor weight gain, I begin to wonder about malabsortion disorders.
Cystic Fibrosis comes to mind. The pedi's can probably give you a nice
long list of things to rule out.
--
Jeanne Mitchell, Austin, TX
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Date: Mon, 14 Dec 1998 19:00:48 -0600
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I passed on the many great suggestions I got for the mom whose milk
wouldn't let down after 3 months of no breastfeeding problems. She was a
delightful woman to work with.
I asked if she could have been pregnant before that heavy bleed. She said,
"Not a chance." I didn't ask.... She is now on a food iron supplement.
I shared the relaxation suggestions you sent, and she shared all of the
relaxation techniques she had been using--some of which she said she knew
sounded silly. She has taught classes in relaxation and was annoyed with
herself that when she used the techniques she had taught, her mind would
reply, "Oh, yeah, sure." She even made up songs to her breasts. We
laughed a lot at her resourcefulness.
She had asked her husband at 5:00 AM to give her math problems so that she
could focus on that instead of her absent MER. He tried, but was too
sleepy to make up really complex ones, and "2x4 just wasn't an adequate
distraction."
I suggested a day of no dress and skin to skin and *lots* of
playing--spontaneous, mindless play and laughter. She agreed that she had
grown very serious. She liked the idea of play and skin.
Dad took a day off from work to help with the efforts. What finally worked
was Dad's beginning a marathon conversation with her. He asked questions,
talked about all of the interesting or funny things that he could think of,
and was able to distract her through several feedings, since which her MER
is responsive. Isn't he a sweetie?
She has begun another menstrual period and hopes that this one will not be
heavy as the last one was. We discussed her heavy period and she said that
it was the second full period, with the first one's being rather light.
Her baby has been a 3-4 hour feeder from early on and sleeping through the
night, and growing beautifully. She doesn't sleep much in the day time,
but is happy to play and be held. All of this is probably the reason for
the early return of menses.
Howecer, mom said that she has been having light bleeding every week or so
since about 1 month. She was concerned and asked her doctor, whose
brilliant reply was, "When you are breastfeeding all of your hormones are
crazy. Don't worry."
Mom is concerned, however, because her sister had breast cancer, and
anything saying "hormones" concerns her. I said that I consider irregular
light bleeding in this period to be something to be looked into. Am I
being an alarmist? Or should she get a second opinion, especially after
the nature of that "first opinion."
Her milk supply had been great until that heavy bleed 3 weeks ago.
What do you think?
Patricia Gima, IBCLC
Milwaukee, Wisconsin, Upper Midwest, USA
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Date: Mon, 14 Dec 1998 20:25:04 -0500
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I guess nothing is impossible, but this seems like an extremely extremely
low risk situation. I wouldn't sweat it.
Jack Newman, MD, FRCPC
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Date: Mon, 14 Dec 1998 20:22:14 EST
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Anne:
I have a copy of the working group report on bf: science and society from
2995 which was supported by the pope and it discusses positely the use of
la...
Patricia
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I know some babes with heart problems have blue extremities
and some are obvious but some are not. A babe I worked with
a few years ago was checked frequently by different peds and
the heart problem was not diagnosed until X-rays were done
at 6 weeks. Babe was 7lbs at birth and 7lbs at six weeks and
mom had been pumping lots of hind milk and supplementing
with a tube at the breast almost all of that time. This baby
also looked fine and no one would have guessed she was so
ill. Heart problems are not always obvious unfortunately.
Hope this is not the case with your babe and all will be well soon.
Ruth Bacon IBCLC Thornhill Ontario
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From: Patrica Young <[log in to unmask]>
Subject: gripe water
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My co-LLLL's mom is from England. LLLL swears by gripe water, always begs
anyone goiung to UK to bring her back a supply! Sincerely, Pat in SNJ
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Date: Mon, 14 Dec 1998 20:49:51 -0500
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From: Patrica Young <[log in to unmask]>
Subject: dill seeds
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dill seeds are found in the grocery store in the spices section. Natural
food stores and ethnic stores might also be good sources. (I don't think
dill pickles will do the job :-) Sincerely, Pat in SNJ
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Date: Mon, 14 Dec 1998 21:05:50 EST
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From: Mary-Jane Sackett <[log in to unmask]>
Subject: Looking for HEENT surgeon who does frenectomies in Boston area
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If anyone in the greater Boston area has worked with or knows an HEENT (or a
pediatric surgeon) who does frenectomies, would you please e-mail me
privately. I have a labor support client whose baby is tongue-tied, and she
is interested in speaking with a doctor about the need for clipping the
frenulum to help avoid speech problems. Thank you in advance.
Mary-Jane Sackett, CD(DONA), RN, CCE
Labors of Love Doula Services in Pittsfield, MA
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Date: Mon, 14 Dec 1998 21:14:36 EST
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From: "Kathy Lipke, Rn, Bsn, Ibclc" <[log in to unmask]>
Subject: Bleeding nipple/baby's
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One of the LC's in our practice was called by a pediatrician today with the
following question: do we know what might be causing bleeding from the nipple
of a 4.5month old breastfeeding infant. As far as we could get in our
questioning, the baby is otherwise healthy; nursing well and gaining and
growing appropriately. The mother also seems to be in good health. Does
anyone have any wisdom to shed on this situation? You can email me at
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Thank you!
Kathy Lipke, RN, BSN, IBCLC
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Date: Mon, 14 Dec 1998 21:49:50 -0500
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From: NECSI <[log in to unmask]>
Subject: Bf in PUB-LIC!
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I can't think of a more appropriate place to breastfeed
in public. congrats!