Come now Jack you now Toronto isn't the same as Pennsylvania. I went to a Blue Jays game there once. The fans were polite to the visiting team and when the ump threw a Blue Jay player out of the game all the fans did was boo. Pennsylvia, at least Philadelphia is quit different during sporting events. Anyway 60% of women menstruate at Tanner 4 so they can have babies. The source I have says 20% of women do not progress to a Tanner 5 breast stage. The mom in question is in her 20's. Still no one has answered the original question. -Rob Rob Cordes DO, FAAP, FACOP WIlkes Barre PA mail to:[log in to unmask]