Unsubscribe [log in to unmask] At 07:30 AM 9/30/98 -0400, you wrote: >Date: Wed, 30 Sep 1998 07:30:18 -0400 >Reply-To: Lactation Information and Discussion <[log in to unmask]> >Sender: Lactation Information and Discussion <[log in to unmask]> >From: Automatic digest processor <[log in to unmask]> >Subject: LACTNET Digest - 29 Sep 1998 to 30 Sep 1998 - Special issue >To: Recipients of LACTNET digests <[log in to unmask]> > >There are 12 messages totalling 376 lines in this issue. > >Topics in this special issue: > > 1. Time to write more letters... > 2. National Geographic: October 1998 page 22 > 3. miscellaneous stufff > 4. tv show b-feeding > 5. Solids > 6. EBM for colds > 7. buprenorphine > 8. Herbals and Safety > 9. early solids > 10. Palatal Obturators > 11. Hypobilirubinaemia > 12. RSV, vaccine and bf -- summary article? > > >To post a note to the 2000+ subscribers of LACTNET, send your note to > [log in to unmask] >To change your subscription options as in those listed below, send computer >commands listed below, via e-mail to: > [log in to unmask] > > To leave LACTNET---- UNSUBSCRIBE LACTNET > To temporarily stop your subscription------ SET LACTNET NOMAIL > To restart mail after being nomail -------------- SET LACTNET MAIL > For Information on other commands------------ HELP > For Information on Search Functions------------- INFO REFCARD >Don't Know How To "Work" Lactnet? Send e-mail to [log in to unmask] >with message reading: Get Lactnet Welcome > > LACTNET WWW Archives : http://library.ummed.edu/lsv/archives/lactnet.html > >For further help, write to Lactnet Listmoms at: >Kathleen B. Bruce BSN, IBCLC [log in to unmask] >Kathleen G. Auerbach Ph.D, IBCLC [log in to unmask] >[log in to unmask] >Date: Wed, 30 Sep 1998 00:55:51 EDT >From: "Carol Schlef, RNC, MSW, IBCLC" <[log in to unmask]> >Subject: Time to write more letters... >MIME-Version: 1.0 >Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII >Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > >Hi all, > >Am still no-mail until I get my book manuscript done (this week's the >deadline! Pray for me, please!) but I had to get y'all riled up one more >time. > >My husband just pointed out an article in the October issue of Parenting (not >to be confused with "Parents") Magazine. It's titled, "Your Amazing Breasts", >and talks about breast development and care from conception to weaning. > >Several problems in the article: 1) while they quote a "certified lactation >consultant", it's in relation to buying a bra. 2) while they assume >breastfeeding is the norm, they make it sound easier to NOT breastfeed, in >terms of comfort; 3) most of the actual latch/supply/problem-solving advice is >quoted from a nurse-midwife, not an LC; 4) they have MIS-information, like (in >reference to inverted nipples) "A breast shield, a dome-shaped plastic shield >with air-flow holes, may also have to be worn when feeding to help the baby >latch on." Are they talking shells or nipple shields?? 5) They imply that >nursing makes breasts "droopy" and 6) THIS IS THE BIG ONE: Right in the >middle of the article is a full page ad for Carnation Good Start, complete >with mail-in card!!!!!! > >As Jack would say, "AAAAAAARRRRRGGGGHHHHH!!!" > >Anyway, Parenting's email address is: [log in to unmask] >They also have a website: www.parenttime.com that has a bulletin board where >they ask for input. > >Go get 'em, y'all!! >'Bye for now, gotta go back to "real" writing! ;-) > >Carol in St. Louis >Date: Tue, 29 Sep 1998 23:40:06 -0400 >From: Amy J Mueller <[log in to unmask]> >Subject: National Geographic: October 1998 page 22 > >The following article was printed in our local newspaper in response to >the above referenced photo. > >"Warning: The following column is not intended for those who are faint of >heart when it comes to public discussion of women's bodies, or for my >children and their friends. > >Some kids are gathered around, thumbing throught an issue of National >Geographic. There's a picture that one child wants to show the others. > >I can only imagine what that photo might be. It's only been three decades >or so since I was a juvenile, rifling through the pages of National >Geographic hoping to find a picture of: >a) A woman naked from the waist up >b) A man nearly naked from the waist down >c) All of the above > >No matter the content of the story. That maybe some ancient tribe had >been discovered. Or that it is, as I see later in this case, an update on >the plight of refugees. To a kid thumbing throught the National >Geographic, the articles can be irrelevant. > >So I ask what it is the picture shows. The answer? A woman breastfeeding, >and it looks like a banana. > >I ask for the magazine. Yes, a woman is breastfeeding. The baby is >suckling off a fold of skin that is, if you are inclined to think that >way, somewhat shaped like a banana. Thankfully they both look healthy. > >Remembering similar photos I have seen over the years of women who have >nursed maybe10 or 12 kids, plus the babies of a few other tribeswomen and >some orphans from the next town over, I tell them "That's what can >happen after a women has breastfed children." > >Not that anyone ever told me that before it was too late. I think if >people knew going into it exactly what toll childbirth takes on the >female body, the world's population would be about half what it is now. > >Breastfeeding offered some of the calmest, closest times I had with my >babies. But I remember going in for a check-up the year after my first >child wasborn. Months had passed since we'd gone to bottle feedings. My >stomach had flattened some, but where I was looking for a hint of >perkiness, I was instead reminded of those cartoons of grandmas with >severe cases of the droop. And I was only 29. So that was the first >question I had for the doctor. > >"When are they going to go back to being themselves ?" I asked him, as >you might inquire about a relative who has undergone shock treatment. > >"Uh," he said, "they aren't." The moment of truth. I'll never forget it. > >I breastfed the next one because, after all, what difference would it >make? The damage was done. But it did make a difference. > >You come to accept it. And realize that as you get older, it doesn't get >any better. You don't even mind when you go to buy nasty birthday cards >for people who are turning 40 or 50 and see that they are half devoted to >cracks about the impact gravity has on womens' aging chests. > >It doesn't mean we like it. On the other hand, those of us who have come >to terms with the certainty that we will never be asked to pose for >Playboy can take heart in the words of the Mother Superior in "The Sound >of Music," who advised a young Maria that "When God closes one door, he >opens another." > >Looking at it that way, there's always National Geographic." > >Author: >Kathy Gibbons >[log in to unmask] > >For anyone wishing to comment: >Record-Eagle Letters to the Editor >Box 632 >Traverse City, MI 49685-0632 >www.record-eagle.com > >___________________________________________________________________ >You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. >Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com >Or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866] >Date: Wed, 30 Sep 1998 01:05:27 EDT >From: "Cheryl L. Tompkins CLC" <[log in to unmask]> >Subject: Re: miscellaneous stufff >MIME-Version: 1.0 >Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII >Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > >I agree with Jay! > >Cheryl L. Tompkins, CLC >Phoenix, Arizona, USA >mailto: [log in to unmask] >Date: Wed, 30 Sep 1998 01:59:02 EDT >From: "Anne F. Norton-Krawciw RPh, IBCLC" <[log in to unmask]> >Subject: tv show b-feeding >MIME-Version: 1.0 >Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII >Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > >how much is the current price to fly from the us of a to the netherlands. > >i am just tired of all the bad press we get over here breastfeeding and other >wise > > >anne norton-krawciw, RPh IBCLC >Brestfeeding Specialists Inc >Sterling Heights MI USA >Date: Tue, 29 Sep 1998 20:15:34 -1000 >From: Gloria Buoncristiano-Thai <[log in to unmask]> >Subject: Solids > >Thought I'd add my .02 on this. It just amazes me the wide range of >thinking on this one. At birth, my son weighed 7 lbs. 8 oz., by 3 >months, he was 17 lbs. The pediatrician wanted him to start solids to >"slow" his weight gain. Did I follow this---of course not! Every time >we went in for a well baby, the doctor would ask if I started my son on >solids. I would just smile, and he would say, you didn't, did you. > >Aloha, >Gloria Thai LLLLeader Hawai'i >who is wondering where the time has gone as my oldest just celebrated her >eighth birthday! > >___________________________________________________________________ >You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. >Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com >Or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866] >Date: Tue, 29 Sep 1998 11:50:37 +0200 >From: Jean Ridler <[log in to unmask]> >Subject: Re: EBM for colds >MIME-Version: 1.0 >Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii >Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > >Dear Johanna > >EBM for colds (in the nose) and for ear infections is used extensively >by some cultures in South Africa. It works, too. It cetainly won't do >any harm and is worth a try. Also used for "sticky eyes" with good >results. > >Regards >Jean Ridler >RN RM IBCLC >Cape Town >South Africa >Date: Tue, 29 Sep 1998 21:33:43 +0100 >From: Françoise Railhet <[log in to unmask]> >Subject: buprenorphine >MIME-Version: 1.0 >Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" >Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > >Dear Lactnetters > >Does someone have any experience about buprenorphine in a BF woman ? It >seems it is more and more used (in France) instead of methadone. >Thank you a lot. > >Francoise Railhet >Manager of the LLL France Medical Associates Program >[log in to unmask] >Date: Wed, 30 Sep 1998 09:45:41 +0000 >From: Moshe and Susan Srebrnik <[log in to unmask]> >Subject: Herbals and Safety >MIME-Version: 1.0 >Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii >Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > >There ARE problems with regulating herbals. I would never buy herbals >OTC in a supermarket or from a health food store. Just like I wouldn't >go to a non-qualified health practitioner, I wouldn't dream of trusting >clerks who have little or no training. I work with a number of >homeopathic/herbal pharmacies where the pharmacists ARE well trained. >They either make their own preparations or sell ones they know are safe. >Another bet would be to work with a certified herbalist. The HP who >commented that he thinks this is all a fad is dead wrong. The field is >growing, growing, growing... Even hospitals and health funds are >participating. > >BTW, a number of you have written to me with the question about >pregnant/lactating and children fasting on Yom Kippur. There are no >clear answers because Jews belong to different branches ranging from >the most liberal Reform to Haredi or ultra-Orthodox. It is generally >accepted that young children and those who have medical conditions >are exempt from fasting. One thing I've learned from living in Israel - >you ask two Jews, you get 3 opinions... > >Susan Nachman-Srebrnik, IBCLC >Ranana, Israel >Date: Wed, 30 Sep 1998 10:11:41 +0000 >From: Heather <[log in to unmask]> >Subject: early solids >MIME-Version: 1.0 >Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" > >Anneleis: I think the study you mean was published on Jan 1 this year, in >(I think) the BMJ (or it could have been the Lancet - I'm pressed for time >so can't check). It showed that solids before 15 weeks inc. the liklihood >of respiratory illness episodes by age seven, and had some measurable >effect on blood flow (slows if fed early solids) and on body fat (though >it's too soon to say this will lead to obesity). This is part of the >wonderful 'Dundee study' which is tracking about 500 mother and baby pairs >- the 'babies' are now 13 and their overall health is now being monitored, >with a special focus on blood flow and body fat. > >So far, it seems (now prepare yourself for a shock - NOT) : > >it is best to bf exclusively >it is second best to formula feed and introduce solids after 15 weeks >it is third best (or worst) to formula feed and int. solids before 15 weeks > >The great thing about the Dundee study is that it tracks Western babies in >a fairly typical urban environment, and gives us ammunition against those >anti-bf peope who say bf is only important in the developing rural world, >and makes no diff. to Western babies. > >Heather Welford Neil >NCT bfc Newcastle upon Tyne UK - in the North East of England - about 300 >miles from London : ) >Date: Wed, 30 Sep 1998 12:20:04 +0200 >From: Pamela Morrison IBCLC <[log in to unmask]> >Subject: Palatal Obturators >MIME-Version: 1.0 >Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" > >Kathleen wrote, "Ok. So, who actually lives in an area where plastic >surgeons will actually agree to make palatal obturators for cleft babies?" > >"Plates" as they are called are fitted to every baby who has a cleft that I >have worked with (about 5) within about 24 hours of birth. But so thick, so >clumsy and so unwieldy that the upper gum ridge is *huge* and precludes >latching. Furthermore, the plastic surgeon who choreographs the whole >exercise has so successfully succeeded in convincing the mother that she >"cannot" breastfeed by the second time I see her that it's just about >impossible to try again. > >Pamela Morrison IBCLC (frustrated) in Zimbabwe >Date: Wed, 30 Sep 1998 12:20:23 +0200 >From: Pamela Morrison IBCLC <[log in to unmask]> >Subject: Hypobilirubinaemia >MIME-Version: 1.0 >Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" > >Jack wrote, "Physicians should rather encourage women with >babies with *hypobiliribinemia* due to artificial feeding to take the babies >of the formula for a couple of days and put them on the breast so that the >bilirubin rises into the normal range." > >Oh YESSS! I do like this. Brilliant in its simplicity, Jack! > >Pamela Morrison IBCLC, Zimbabwe >Date: Wed, 30 Sep 1998 07:15:58 -0400 >From: Patrica Young <[log in to unmask]> >Subject: Re: RSV, vaccine and bf -- summary article? >MIME-Version: 1.0 >Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 >Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > >Doraine, first of all RSV is ubiquitous. By age 2 or 3 every child has had >it. In the healthy infant it is a bad cold. In the premature or BPD >(bronchopulmonary dysplasia) baby it can be a major crisis, requiring >hospitalization. Subsequently many of these babies have problems with RAD >(Reactive Airway Disease - asthma) for a year or more. There is some >discussion if RSV is the trigger for RAD or a marker, but if your kid is >wheezing I guess it doesn't really matter which came first - the kid >wheezes now! > >2nd There is no RSV vaccine. Respigam and Synagis are antibodies, must be >given monthly during RSV season (Nov-Apr), at $1000 per dose this is not >being discussed for the average kid with no major problems. The prime >reason to use Synagis is that it is IM and doesn't interfere with other >immunizations. Respigam requires a short hosp stay for administration by >IV and does interfere with live virus vaccines like MMR. Pro respigam - >it seemed to help decrease colds and Otitis in these babies, con - Synagis >didn't have same effect on colds and OM. I believe a real vaccine for RSV >is years away and I have reservations about its use in the general >population. > >My gut feeling is that being BF helps a lot in how a baby handles RSV. >Unfortunately, the population who need the most protection from RSV are the >least likely to be BF (very early prematures and BPD babies). The average >healthy full term BF baby probably has a runny nose from RSV and not much >else. > >Someone mentioned on the net that the average stay in their area was 4 >days. It varies here in my area, depending on severity. I tend to begin >nebulizer tx(treatment) at first wheeze so manage to keep most out of the >hospital. Last winter (which was mild in NJ) was just horrible for RSV >infections. I hospitalized more babies than the previous 3 year total! >There were days when I thought I'd scream if I heard one more wheezy chest! > (We are a high volume inner city practice). > >Sincerely, Pat, PNP, east coast USA, mid-Atlantic region (my sig is >evolving!) >