SET LACTNET NOMAIL >From: SMTP%"[log in to unmask]" >Subj: LACTNET Digest - 27 Apr 1998 - Special issue > >Return-Path: [log in to unmask] >Received: by champ.vdh.state.vt.us (UCX V4.1-12E, OpenVMS V7.1 Alpha); > Mon, 27 Apr 1998 21:18:47 -0400 >Received: (qmail 2280 invoked from network); 28 Apr 1998 01:17:41 -0000 >Received: from library.ummed.edu (146.189.64.2) > by library.ummed.edu with SMTP; 28 Apr 1998 01:17:41 -0000 >Date: Mon, 27 Apr 1998 21:17:39 -0400 >Reply-To: Lactation Information and Discussion <[log in to unmask]> >Sender: Lactation Information and Discussion <[log in to unmask]> >From: Automatic digest processor <[log in to unmask]> >Subject: LACTNET Digest - 27 Apr 1998 - Special issue >To: Recipients of LACTNET digests <[log in to unmask]> > >There are 13 messages totalling 359 lines in this issue. > >Topics in this special issue: > > 1. freebies! > 2. Mike Woolridge > 3. LACTNET Digest - 26 Apr 1998 to 27 Apr 1998 - Special issue > 4. when to make the 2 yr. + BF plea > 5. Rush Mothers' Milk Club - Paula Meier > 6. link between breast cancer and bra wearing > 7. USPS breastfeeding stamp suggestion...rejected > 8. Placidyl or Ethchlorvynol > 9. Co-bathing for attachment difficulties > 10. anemic 9 m/o twin > 11. Food aversion/FTT > 12. LACTNET Digest - 26 Apr 1998 > 13. Lactnet handmade quilt raffle > > >To post a note to the 1830+ subscribers of LACTNET, send your note to > [log in to unmask] >To change your subscription options as in those listed below, send computer >commands listed below, via e-mail to: > [log in to unmask] > > To leave LACTNET---- UNSUBSCRIBE LACTNET > To temporarily stop your subscription------ SET LACTNET NOMAIL > To restart mail after being nomail -------------- SET LACTNET MAIL > For Information on other commands------------ HELP > For Information on Search Functions------------- INFO REFCARD >Don't Know How To "Work" Lactnet? Send e-mail to [log in to unmask] >with message reading: Get Lactnet Welcome > > LACTNET WWW Archives : http://library.ummed.edu/lsv/archives/lactnet.html > >For further help, write to Lactnet Listmoms at: >Kathleen B. Bruce BSN, IBCLC [log in to unmask] >Kathleen G. Auerbach Ph.D, IBCLC [log in to unmask] >[log in to unmask] > >LACTNET QUILT RAFFLE- > See details at http://together.net/~kbruce/kbblact.html > >---------------------------------------------------------------------- > >Date: Mon, 27 Apr 1998 14:31:46 EDT >From: CawoodRGN <[log in to unmask]> >Subject: Re: freebies! > > I have been listening to the discussion on freebies, gift packs, leaflets and >what ever. We decided sometime ago in my health authority to stop giving any >books, leaflets etc. that had any promotional aspect about them. When I book >women and they enquire about previous gifts I just explain why we no longer >give them. I have not had one complaint or letter about this. I have found >that women are interested in why we stopped our gifts and some ask for more >information. > >We all like to receive something for nothing but when it is at cost to a baby >and its health it is easy to give them up. I also hate the thought that the >formula company's are claiming a tax benefit for producing and giving away >freebies to all of us. > >------------------------------ > >Date: Mon, 27 Apr 1998 14:43:29 EDT >From: CawoodRGN <[log in to unmask]> >Subject: Re: Mike Woolridge > >Dear Kathy, >Mike Woolridge works in Leeds , UK now at the University so you should be able >to find him via the net., Chris Wood UK > >------------------------------ > >Date: Mon, 27 Apr 1998 14:52:47 EDT >From: CawoodRGN <[log in to unmask]> >Subject: Re: LACTNET Digest - 26 Apr 1998 to 27 Apr 1998 - Special issue > >Oops, sorry everyone I forgot to sign off politely, I think its my age! > >As a note Anthony Williams at a talk on Donor Breast milk: Nutritional, >Therapeutic and Medical Considerations spoke about IDDM in detail. He said >that the resaerch to date showed that if the parents of the baby had IDDM then >the risk was the same if breast or artifically fed, unfortunately. A real >reduction in risk was seen when there was not a close family link. > >Bye for now >Chris Wood, UK > >------------------------------ > >Date: Mon, 27 Apr 1998 15:39:05 EDT >From: Singdoula <[log in to unmask]> >Subject: Re: when to make the 2 yr. + BF plea > >Hello Lactnetters, >I am a professional labor assistant and childbirth educator in S. FL. I would >love to see each client making the commitment to BF for at least 2 years. My >main and first concern, of course is that the client have an informed and >positive (as natural as is safe) birth experience. Does anyone know of the >ideal time to introduce the 2 yr+ recommendation? (and no solids till 6 mo., >feed on demand, preferably no supplementing, blah blah etc...) My dilemma is >this: when the subject is introduced during pregnancy, it tends to overwhelm >my client. I hear statements like "I don't know if I can handle all >this....pregnancy.....natural childbirth...now I have to BF forever!" Yet, my >fear is that waiting to cover the issue during the postpartum visits may be >too late! There could already be soreness, fear, engorgement...that w/o >education may lead to supplementation or weaning. What really surprises me >time after time is that the women aren't already well informed about all of >this when they come to me (as late as 30 weeks!) RARELY have they heard or >read about a 1 year recommendation let alone 2yrs; what are OBGYNs doing about >this? Any suggestions? Thanks in advance. >frustrated and confused PLA and CBE >Adriana Samargia Kaufman > >------------------------------ > >Date: Mon, 27 Apr 1998 16:10:24 -0400 >From: Pat Bull <[log in to unmask]> >Subject: Rush Mothers' Milk Club - Paula Meier > >Hi Netters, = > > >Been off lactnet for awhile and still trying to catch up. Know there ha= >s >been many questions about premature babies & BF issues on lactnet. Paula= > >Meier, Dr. Richard Schanler, Nancy Hurst and Dr. Armond Goldman (etc) ju= >st >finished up speaking at the "4th Annual conference for Advanced >Practitioners. Mother's Milk For The Preterm Infant: Research, Outcomes= >, >and Clinical Applications" here in Chicago area. Wonderful as usual. So= >me >good research to be published really soon. Watch for it. Wanted to let= > >you all know that Paula's info on the program she has developed at >Rush-Presbyterian Hospital called "Rush Mothers' Milk Club" (a program o= >f >breastfeeding services based on the latest research about mothers' milk a= >nd >special care babies) is now available in a brochure and packet. The pack= >et >contains papers on "Expressing Hindmilk for Your Baby", "Expressing >Colostrum for Your Baby", Two reimbursement letters for insurance compan= >ys >for pump rentals and baby scale rentals, and Mother's Milk Club Newslette= >r. > The brochure topics are "Overview of the Rush Mother's Milk Club, >Expressing, Labeling, and Storing Milk for Your Baby, Expressing Your Mil= >k, >Labeling Your Expressed Milk, Storing Your Milk, Skin-To-Skin (Kangaroo) >Care, Suckling at the Emptied Breast, Early Feedings at Breast, Preparing= > >to Breastfeed After Your Baby Leaves the Special Care Nursery, and After >Your Baby Goes Home. To order one the address is: Rush-Presbyterian-St.= > >Luke's Medical Center, Department of Maternal-Child Nursing and Section o= >f >Neonatology, 1653 West Congress Parkway, Chicago, IL 60612. (312) >942-6640. Name of packet is "Welcome to the Rush Mother's Milk Club". = > >Need to ask for price. Good seeing some of you lactnetters there. = > > >Pat Bull, RN, IBCLC >The Breastfeeding Connection/Medela >Naperville, IL = > >------------------------------ > >Date: Mon, 27 Apr 1998 17:41:10 EDT >From: Nleeguitar <[log in to unmask]> >Subject: link between breast cancer and bra wearing > >Hi Everybody: > A while back, somebody posted a query about the study linking bra wearing >with breast cancer. I just found, in the Birth and Life Bookstore Catalogue >(Orders: 1-800-443-9942) a book published by the authors of that study. It is >called "Dressed to Kill" by Sydney Ross Singer and Soma Grismaijer and was >published in 1995. $11.95 plus s&h. > The catalogue is so full, I wish I could take the summer off and read >everything in it. Warmly, Nikki > >------------------------------ > >Date: Mon, 27 Apr 1998 18:03:09 EDT >From: Pearl Shifer <[log in to unmask]> >Subject: USPS breastfeeding stamp suggestion...rejected > >Here's the letter I rec'd from USPS: >Dear Proponent: >Thank you for your recent correspondence expressing support for the >issuance of a commemorative stamp. >This office has received similar proposals in the past. Therefore, the >Citizens' Stamp Advisory Committee has previously reviewed the nomination >of this subject, but it was not recommended for issuance. >Each year, we receive thousands of letters suggesting hundreds of >different topics for new stamps. Since 1957, the Citizens'Stamp Advisory >Committee has reviewed many worthy subjects and has recommended a limited >number based on national interest, historical perspective, and other >criteria. Unfortunately, a vast majority of suggestions submitted, >including many meritorious and meaningful subjects, cannot result in a >stamp. >We appreciate your interest in our stamp program. >Sincerely, >James C. Tolbert Jr. >Manager, Stamp Development > 475 L'Enfant Plaza SW >Washington, DC 20260-2435 > >submitted to Lactnet by: > Pearl Shifer, IBCLC NYC > >_____________________________________________________________________ >You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. >Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com >Or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866] > >------------------------------ > >Date: Mon, 27 Apr 1998 18:21:40 -0400 >From: Margery Forrest <[log in to unmask]> >Subject: Placidyl or Ethchlorvynol > >Hello everyone, > > I've been a good girl and checked the archives (both of them), >and my Dr. Hale. Is Placidyl (ethchlorvynol) compatable with breastfeeding? > > Now, to complicate the question: The baby is 5 weeks old, >re-admitted to the hospital with coarctation of the aorta and bilateral >pneumonia. Baby has now been on the ventilator for 1 week, Dr.'s hoping >to wean baby off today or tomorrow. Mom is pumping away, but was finally >talked into going home for some rest (mom and dad both exhausted, live >about an hour away from the hosp.) Someone (don't know who) gave mom a >"sleeping pill" to help her get the rest she needs..... > > This is actually after the fact, at this point, as the nurses >have dumped mom's milk that was pumped after the full night's sleep. I >am still relatively new at this hospital, so no one asked me. But after >saying loudly that "I have references that will answer whether this drug >would have been safe or not" I now realize that I lied. I do not. Do you? > > Thanks in advance for any information on this oldie but >unreferenced drug. > >Margie Forrest, RN, BSN, IBCLC > >------------------------------ > >Date: Mon, 27 Apr 1998 17:25:42 -0500 >From: "Bari Colleen Creager, CNM" <[log in to unmask]> >Subject: Re: Co-bathing for attachment difficulties > >Let them bathe together! We talk to moms about the "magic" of sitz >baths, I have never been able to figure out why women shouldn't bathe >post partum. The mom and babe have the same body germ pool and this need >to get back to essentials with each other is at the top of the priority >list. If this simple time together will create good, let them do it. > >Bari > >------------------------------ > >Date: Mon, 27 Apr 1998 16:39:46 -0700 >From: Mary H Cummins <[log in to unmask]> >Subject: anemic 9 m/o twin > >Any suggestions to increase hemoglobin (now at 7.4) of 20 lb. 9 month old >twin. He was born at 34 weeks and at 5 lbs. was a pound smaller than his >twin sister. Both babies nursed well from the beginning and were >exclusively breastfed until 6 mos. > >Baby boy has little appetite for solids. Mom reports that once a day she >maybe can get him to eat 3 -4 tablespoons of pasta with tomato/ground >meat sauce. This baby is otherwise healthy and active although mother >says he is paler than his sister who weighs a little more and whose >hemaglobin is 10.5. > >Mom started him on liquid multivitamin drops with iron when she found out >about his low hemaglobin. I just read recent post about low iron and low >zinc causing food to taste bad and will pass information along to her. > >TIA for any other suggestions, > >Mary Cummins, MEd, IBCLC >Scottsdale, AZ > >_____________________________________________________________________ >You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. >Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com >Or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866] > >------------------------------ > >Date: Mon, 27 Apr 1998 20:13:00 EDT >From: Wightsd <[log in to unmask]> >Subject: Re: Food aversion/FTT > >Hey guys, the name is Wight, and I don't remember that conference! I know >nothing about food tasting bad with low Zinc or Fe. Sometimes PREMIES don't >gain weight well when they are anemic. I think you mistook Nancy Krebs MD for >me> >Nancy Wight MD, FAAP, IBCLC >Still here but too much stuff to respond to every day! > >------------------------------ > >Date: Mon, 27 Apr 1998 21:03:34 -0400 >From: PrMechell Roberts Turner <[log in to unmask]> >Subject: Re: LACTNET Digest - 26 Apr 1998 > >-----Original Message----- >From: Automatic digest processor <[log in to unmask]> >To: Recipients of LACTNET digests <[log in to unmask]> >Date: Monday, April 27, 1998 12:03 AM >Subject: Formula Reps & stuff LACTNET Digest - 26 Apr 1998 > > >Hi all> Just returned from a local area perinatal conference. As the >representative from our local ilca affiliate, I saw the R*** and W**** reps. >The w***** Rep started to set up next to my booth. I was upset but said >nothing. He moved once he saw that I was a breastfeeding-rep. He only broght >literatured on birth control pills. Well I told him that he and W***M**** >had no business in putting formula on the shelves to confuse parents. >What was Worse was that the R*** rep had breastfeeding stuff. ONly a few of >the things that had to do with pregnancy, a dilitaiton chart and a gestation >wheel. well the worst was the roll mints that they passed out. A five roll >pack of mints in a silver wrapper, with a whit labels printed like S****** >formula. Yes I broght some home to complain about. and use for examples of >viuolation of the Code. By the way they took info from all over theplace. >Yes i told both reps they were in violation, there were rare places and >times that their stuff was needed.but they cannot duplicate nature. > >And those men with breast envy, when in kindergarden of first grad did they >not learn to share? my kids and husband shared without a problem. Steve >loved to bathe and hold. Even did kangaroo care, until the day my daughter >latched on to his small and flat nipple. No more breast envy. He just liked >the fact it was free. With our large brood, everything gets expensive. > >Mechell Turner, M.Ed. IBCLC >Where in peachland winter rains have returned. > >------------------------------ > >Date: Mon, 27 Apr 1998 20:13:29 -0400 >From: Kathleen Bruce <[log in to unmask]> >Subject: Lactnet handmade quilt raffle > >This is a reminder to talk to Jay Simpson if you want to purchase raffle >tickets to win the handmade (unsolicited) signed-by-Lactnetters-quilts. They >are blue and white, and are scanned in on the page in my signature. They are >signed by Kathleen Auerbach, Jan Barger, etc, folks from Lactnet, and are >one of a kind. > >Jay Simpson is taking ticket sales, at [log in to unmask] > >Tickets are inexpensive, and we will be announcing the two winners (2) in >July, at ILCA, and will ship the quilts to the addresses of the winners. >Proceeds to go to breastfeeding charities, as yet undefined. > >Thanks. Kathleen > >Kathleen B. Bruce, BSN, IBCLC co-owner Lactnet,TLC, Indep. Consultant >mailto:[log in to unmask] >LACTNET Archives http://library.ummed.edu/lsv/archives/lactnet.html > Emily's Mothering Project- http://together.net/~kbruce/proj.html >For LACTNET quilt raffle: http://together.net/~kbruce/kbblact.html > >------------------------------ > >End of LACTNET Digest - 27 Apr 1998 - Special issue >***************************************************