Patty, The story about formula (or lack thereof) in China is a really interesting one. Karin Cadwell was thier consultant in the project and she is at Health Education Assoicates. ([log in to unmask]) You should really ask her for the details of what happened and how it's working. Can anyone from HEA whos' on lactnet give us the story and/or an update? Naomi Bar-Yam PhD