Hi John, I found it much easier to use a five gallon bucket to suck the bees into . In Dec. 97,I extracted a colony of bees from under a house, I had about two feet of head room, maybe two and a half. I mounted some pvc pipe fittings to the lid, one for intake, the other for exhaust with a screen tube on the inside of lid. I've used it several times and Ithink it works better than a wooden box for vacuuming bees. Here in Tucson I put my name in at the fire stations, they refer the people to me. My last swarm come off of a Carl's Jr. sign a little bigger than a softball. The lady that called was very excited, she said "there are some KILLER BEES on the sign at Carl's Jr. It was strange the "KILLER BEES " must of left before I got there, because all I got was some mello bees. It was worth going to get them. Good luck to you. May the LORD Bless you and keep you all the days of your life. Robert Butcher [log in to unmask] _____________________________________________________________________ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com Or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866]