Message-ID: <[log in to unmask]> Date: Mon, 16 Feb 1998 21:16:01 -0600 From: curtis spacek <[log in to unmask]> Reply-To: [log in to unmask] X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.0Gold (Win95; U) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: [log in to unmask] Subject: Re: simulated tropics above lattitude 35 References: <[log in to unmask]> <[log in to unmask]> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit This was an interesting post as I have never heard of anyones hives being invaded by african bees.Here along the upper Texas coast we've had reports of ahb's attacking people who inadvertently disturbed the hive by mowing too close to old barns or sheds which were chosen by the bees for a nest site.Two men were stung badly while clearing brush from around an old building in the Houston area.The point being ahb's are not at all common and between limitations due to climate and our ever present line of defending mites the ahb seems to have moved as far north as they're going to. I have a yard at the coast where 11 hives in which the queens were superceded have nasty dispositions but the other 15 with italian queens ordered from a supplier are generally mild tempered.These are all yellow in color like original queens.I doubt seriously this temperament problem is due to queens mating with ahb drones it is more likely that the queens'were hybred and the traits didn't carry to the next generation. I frequently travel the ahb trap line and have yet to see any bees in any traps.I would be interested in the actual numbers of ahb colonies taken from any of these traps vs.the number of local swarms caught.As I understand the program all bees caught in these traps are killed and examined for african traits or genes. Imho the ahb ordeal is blown way out of proportion probably due more to Hollywood than anything else.The people of south america seem to have adapted and are raising bees,african or not,and exporting tons of honey to the USA.If ahb's are more productive than their american counterparts as was intended in the original breeding program then maybe instead of fighting them we should utilize them or their favorable genetic traits. 2 frosts this year and no freezing temps may make for an excellent harvest this year.bees already filling combs with 9 hives ready for supers in the 2nd week of feb.its strange but we will go with the flow.Btw my bees collected pollen all winter and had brood all winter! Wintered in double deeps full in the fall with honey and pollen and they're building up nicely and are refusing the 50/50 sugar water that I put out for them 2 weeks ago.they haven't even touched it(open feeder)