Thanks for your ideas. Hey, I did mean shallows and not mediums which U R using. Cheers. **John Iannuzzi, Ph.D. **38 years in apiculture **12 hives of Italian honeybees **At Historic Ellicott City, Maryland, 21042, U.S.A. (10 miles west of Baltimore, Maryland) [9772 Old Annapolis Rd - 410 730 5279] **"Forsooth there is some good in evil things For bees extract sweetness from the weed" -- Bard of Avon **Website: http://www.xmetric.com/honey **Email: [log in to unmask] [1jan981031est]