Try starting with this guy - http://www.mesozoic.demon.co.uk/bee.htm Also, I understand that this is a result of the limitations of the math involved in order to describe the phenomenon of bee flight. Bees fly, the math cannot grasp this at this time. Chaos theory may lead to some mathematical description of bee flight. Aerodynamics cannot describe why bees fly, but can describe how they do it. As they do fly, there must be some flaw or new question to be asked in their somewhere. Also, in closing, don't be concerned about presenting this information to him as you understand it, he will surprise you with his breadth of understanding and ability. Maybe he is the one to put this silly question and assertion to rest. Bees should not be able to fly, it's ludicrous isn't it? To whom shall we complain? Haha -----Original Message----- From: RICHARD BARNES [SMTP:[log in to unmask]] Sent: Wednesday, December 03, 1997 9:40 AM To: [log in to unmask] Subject: How do Bees Fly???? How do Bees Fly???? My 9 year old 5th grade son came home with the above title as his science fair project. He had read in a book about aerodynamics (sp?) that honey bees should not be able to fly according th their aerodynamics. Apparently, honey bees fly by application of brute force of flapping their wings. Can anyone point me to some information on this subject? Preferably of the level for a fifth grader to understand. Richard Barnes by the request of Sanner Barnes (age 9)