catching up on some Lactnet digest I never did get to, only 476 MORE digests sitting in my offline mailbox and I'll be all caught up! In a message dated 3/6/97 12:16:36 PM, michelle wrote: <<Pumps can easily become just one more gadget and one more way to endorse = separation of mother and baby>> During childbirth prep or at the beginning of BF class, as couples are outlining their goals for class, I hear *so* many moms say something like: "I understand that I should get a pump because of that engorgement I'll have, because its going to be so painful, and it's better to have a pump ahead of time than to have to go out in the middle of the night searching for a pump to relieve the engorgement". In class then, moms are usually reassured and glad to hear about ways to prevent or decrease the likelihood that they will have a problem with engorgement, and that a pump is not a mandatory piece of equipment for every breastfeeding mother. What do you think about people who use scare tactics to sell pumps? deb