dear mira, i am pleased to have a chance to do something i should have done sooner, which is to mention that i read the WABA activity sheet 3 - transforming health colleagues into breastfeeding advocates - available from the waba website <A HREF="http://bbs.elogica.com.br/waba/bookmark.htm">WABA Bookmark</A > for all you stalwart aol people, and i seem to recall links from various other bf websites. this article, by Dr. Raj K. Anand, continues to inspire me whenever i despair of convincing hcps of the validity of "our cause." i hope dr. anand is reading lactnet and is kind enough to accept my humble gratitude and thanks, because this article is terrific! the first time i read this, i cried. in the interests of space i won't even begin to summarize here, but i will add that this article discusses both specific ways to effect change, and an inspiring overview. and it is beautifully written, beginning with a reminder to always respect those with whom we differ. so, mira, begin there and bear with all the differing views on lactnet, and then there is always the approach of my four year old daughter, who obviously snuck out and took a course in assertiveness training - just repeat yourself over and over and over . . . . carol b.