Hi All, I agree with the post that Wendy made concerning gravely ill babies, especially those who die. No one in the hospitals seems to want to deal with it. I applaud my son's major care givers (the ones on duty the first 48 hours) as there was obvious grief as they told us he was failing and then as then end approached. But from then on we struggled with very little help as to getting out of the hospital - I just couldn't stay on Postpartum, no advice or even a warning about milk coming in and what to do about it, or if there was a grief support group to help me cope. I found out through my experience that a little pumping helps to relive the discomfort, yet didn't encourage more milk production, I found out how to be strong at times to get the information and help I needed, and lastly I discovered that talking about my son and my situation actually helped rather than hurt me. Luckily I have a best friend who was more than willing to ask questions and listen to the whole story more than once. Today I had to, on the spur of the moment, be brought back to that situation once a again. My daughter's best friend suddenly lost her baby just days before it was due. I went to the funeral, the church meal and to the house, to let her know that my daughter and I are there for her and that I understand completely what she is going through and will listen anytime. Some of the moms who I offer my support to don't come back, some do and gain insight on getting through this time that I guess one must say, only someone who has been there really knows. Leslie Ward Vine Grove, KY "The soul would have no rainbow if the eyes had no tears." Minquass Proverb