unsubscribe -----Original Message----- From: Automatic digest processor <[log in to unmask]> To: Recipients of BEE-L digests <[log in to unmask]> Date: Monday, October 20, 1997 3:59 AM Subject: BEE-L Digest - 18 Oct 1997 to 19 Oct 1997 >There are 8 messages totalling 389 lines in this issue. > >Topics of the day: > > 1. Pollen data converted to Mac > 2. Bees in nature reserves > 3. Robbers > 4. POLLINATION RESULTS (2) > 5. Young Queen available in Seattle area. > 6. JEAN ELSEN s.a.JEAN ELSEN s.a. - NumismatistsAvenue de Tervueren 65B- > 7. Adulterated Honey > >---------------------------------------------------------------------- > >Date: Sun, 19 Oct 1997 11:45:02 +-200 >From: Jorn Johanesson <[log in to unmask]> >Subject: Pollen data converted to Mac > >Hello all Mac users. > >On request I have converted the pollen data file to a DBF file so that other than win95 or win3.1+ might be able to have use of it! > >Please if you find this Job I have done is of value for You send me a 20 dollar bill :-) > >get the file from the following urls > >http://home4.inet.tele.dk/apimo >http://www.wn.com/apimo > >Best regards > >Jorn Johanesson >Solsortevej 27, Assens >DK 9550 Mariager > >e-mail [log in to unmask] > >------------------------------ > >Date: Sun, 19 Oct 1997 21:25:17 +0900 >From: j h & e mcadam <[log in to unmask]> >Subject: Re: Bees in nature reserves > >Garth wrote: >> >>I have just been wondering what the stance is in areas where bees are >>an introduced species towards their presence in Nature reserves? > >The situation in Australia is that conservation movements disapprove of >access by bees to National Park sites on the grounds that the bee is an >introduced species. This is so even when it has been established that bees >improve the pollination of native species, in particular eucalypts, by >increasing weight and number of fertile seeds. > >The position by National Parks staff is blind opposition. Until recently >there has been little research on the effect of bees (and no interest in >having this done). However recent projects by Dr. David Paton have found >(if I understand them correctly) that: > >1. Commercial bee hives do not increase the population of feral bee hives. > >2. Bees prefer hive sites with very small access holes, which are unlikely >to be chosen by nesting birds. > >On Kangaroo Island the K.I. Beekeepers Association is working with the >Glossy Black Rescue Team which is dedicated to restoring the Red Tailed >Glossy Black Cockatoo to a sustainable level. Early publicity accused bees >of occupying nesting sites set up for cockatoos at the rate of 10% a year. >The Association has been working with trap hives in nesting areas and >reporting on success rates as well as actively trapping swarms in daily >beekeeping activities. > >The Rescue Team has now discovered that the main predator of Glossy Black >eggs is the possum and preventing possum predation has lifted the number of >birds fledged to above the minimum recovery level. > >Working with the Glossy Black Rescue Team has enabled a cross-flow of >information such as the likely swarming times and reasons for swarming (many >eucalypts are pollen deficient and hive populations drop during flowering). > >Nesting hives have also been provided with input from the Association. The >nest roofs are of polypropylene which we have never known bees to select for >hives. > >However the barrier to multi-purpose use of forest areas is the ideology of >National Park staff. New South Wales beekeepers have argued that the bee >has become naturalized and fills a vacant niche. The comment of one >National Park spokeswoman when asked "If the natural pollinator is extinct >and the plant relies now on bees, what will you do?" replied that she would >prefer the plant died out rather than permit bees access. > >The political process is agonizingly slow in educating the political masters >and likely to be interrupted by elections, thus taking you back to first base. >Beekeepers are actively involved in land care movements and conservation but >their reward is to have the areas defined as "heritage" and bees excluded. > >The key to obtaining the access to national resources which is vital for the >health of the apiary industry and therefore the entire primary industry >area, is properly conducted research to demonstrate that the arguments >against bees are invalid and to properly record the value of forests in >honey production. This takes money and lots of time and can only be >conducted by State or Federal Associations with access to relevant >government ministers to ensure the message is not being derailed by >bureaucratic stone-walling. > >Betty McAdam > > >HOG BAY APIARY >Penneshaw, Kangaroo Island >j.h. & e. mcadam<[log in to unmask] >http://kigateway.eastend.com.au/hogbay/hogbay1.htm > >------------------------------ > >Date: Sun, 19 Oct 1997 11:46:42 -0400 >From: Frank & Phronsie Humphrey <[log in to unmask]> >Subject: Re: Robbers > >-----Original Message----- >From: Walter T. Weller <[log in to unmask]> >To: [log in to unmask] <[log in to unmask]> >Date: Thursday, October 16, 1997 04:44 PM >Subject: Re: Robbers > > >>Howdy - >> >>On Mon, 13 Oct 1997 12:19:27 -0400 Frank & Phronsie Humphrey >><[log in to unmask]> wrote about a Robber Screen. >> >>I was much interested in the description, because with this long dry >>spell we're having a lot of robbing. >> >>>These can be made with 3/4" x 3/4" stock. 1 piece it the width of the >>hive >>>opening and 2 pieces about 3" to 4" long. Nail these together to form 3 >>>sides of a box whose length is the width of the opening. Over this >>staple >>>1/8" hardware cloth or window screening, leaving about a 3/4" gap at >>the >>>open side. >> >> >>> Next nail a piece of 1" x 2" on the screen side to finish the box. >> >>Thanks. >> >>Walter Weller >>Post Office Box 270 >>Wakefield, Louisiana 70784 >><[log in to unmask]> >> >Robber Screen Assy. > 14" Wide >____________________________________ >|___________________________________ | >| |################################| | >| |################################| | >| |################################| | >| |################################| | >| |################################| | >| | Nail screen leaving 3/4" gap at bottom | | >____________________________________ >| >| >| _____ 1x2" stock | >|__| |____________________________| > ___ > Hive odors exit Here |__ | > \ > | | This side > Nail screen Here===> | | nailed to > | | front of > __| | hive. > | | | >Nail 1 x 2 Here===> |__|__| hive entrance==> > >Let me know if this helps. > >Frank & Phronsie Humphrey >[log in to unmask] > >------------------------------ > >Date: Sun, 19 Oct 1997 09:28:43 -0700 >From: Andy Nachbar <[log in to unmask]> >Subject: POLLINATION RESULTS > ><excerpt> > ></excerpt> > ><excerpt>Honeybees and beekeepers acknowledged as responsible for bumper >crops of cranberries, ($1,400,000,000,000.00 or 1.4 billion $$)in areas >reported by others as having lost 90% of the bee populations? Check it >out on the ABC News web page below. > > >What ever your slant on the hype and misinformation still being passed >like the wind on the reported the loss of all feral bees and much of the >hive bee populations the facts seem to be the effect on agriculture has >been limited as the 1997 crop reports come in for the year and all the >bee, honeybee,(feral and hive) pollinated crops report record yields with >Cranberries taking the dollar lead from the 1996 and 1997 billion dollar >California almond crop. > > > http://www.abcnews.com/sections/business/harvest/harvest_cran.html > ></excerpt> > > ttul, the OLD Drone > >------------------------------ > >Date: Sun, 19 Oct 1997 13:36:00 -0400 >From: Walt Barricklow <[log in to unmask]> >Subject: Re: POLLINATION RESULTS > >I like the number of zeros that you use much better than what I make. > >---------- >> From: Andy Nachbar <[log in to unmask]> >> To: [log in to unmask] >> Subject: POLLINATION RESULTS >> Date: Sunday, October 19, 1997 12:28 PM >> >> <excerpt> >> >> </excerpt> >> >> <excerpt>Honeybees and beekeepers acknowledged as responsible for bumper >> crops of cranberries, ($1,400,000,000,000.00 or 1.4 billion $$)in areas >> reported by others as having lost 90% of the bee populations? Check it >> out on the ABC News web page below. >> >> >> What ever your slant on the hype and misinformation still being passed >> like the wind on the reported the loss of all feral bees and much of the >> hive bee populations the facts seem to be the effect on agriculture has >> been limited as the 1997 crop reports come in for the year and all the >> bee, honeybee,(feral and hive) pollinated crops report record yields with >> Cranberries taking the dollar lead from the 1996 and 1997 billion dollar >> California almond crop. >> >> >> http://www.abcnews.com/sections/business/harvest/harvest_cran.html >> >> </excerpt> >> >> ttul, the OLD Drone > >------------------------------ > >Date: Sun, 19 Oct 1997 16:49:07 -0700 >From: David Rosenbaum <[log in to unmask]> >Subject: Young Queen available in Seattle area. > >I ordered a "Young Starline Queen (clipped and marked)" from York Bee Co. >in Georgia last Monday, Oct. 13. She was to be shipped priority mail to >Bothell, WA. (near Seattle), but didn't arrive by Saturday Oct. 18. I no >longer need her, and will give her to a 'good home' if anyone in the >area is interested. > >Please respond by e-mail or phone me at work: (206) 526-2134 or home: >(425) 487-2437. > >Best wishes, >David Rosenbaum > >(I'm a novice beekeeper with 3 hives and last weekend I found that one of >them was queenless. I ordered the new queen, but she didn't arrive. On >further inspection of the queenless hive, I found evidence of laying >workers (bullet-capped cells). I've read that trying to introduce a queen >into a hive with laying workers is nearly impossible, and the weather here >is getting colder, with greyer days, so I divided the queenless hive and >added one hivebody to each of the other two (strong) hives, using the >newspaper technique. Hopefully this will work. In any case, I don't need >the queen I bought.) > >------------------------------ > >Date: Mon, 20 Oct 1997 00:24:00 GMT >From: Andy Nachbaur <[log in to unmask]> >Subject: JEAN ELSEN s.a.JEAN ELSEN s.a. - NumismatistsAvenue de Tervueren 65B- > >040 Brussels BelgiumTel: 0032.2.734.63.56 Fax: 0032.2.735.77.78E-mail: n= >umisma >[log in to unmask]: http://www.elsen.beCollection : The bee and the hiv= >ein nu >ismatics > >*FYI* check it out... > ---------------------------------------- >From: "Jean ELSEN s.a." <[log in to unmask]> >Date: Sat, 18 Oct 1997 17:31:57 +0100 >Subject: JEAN ELSEN s.a. > > JEAN ELSEN s.a. - Numismatists > Avenue de Tervueren 65 > B-1040 Brussels > Belgium > Tel: 0032.2.734.63.56 > Fax: 0032.2.735.77.78 > E-mail: [log in to unmask] > Website: http://www.elsen.be > > Collection : The bee and the hive > in numismatics > >Dear Sir, > >We have the pleasure to announce you that we will present Jean Nivaille'= >s >collection in our 52th auction planned on 13th December 1997. > >Jean Nivaille's collection was elaborated during several decades and is >composed by most than thousand coins and medals, from the antiquity till >today. This collection is the most important one in the world focused on >the bee and the hive in numismatics. > >An important number of lots that constitute this collection come from the >famous Spiegel's collection, sold in K=F6ln in Germany in 1980. > >The collection contains numerous rarities, especially in the Ancient Gree= >k >coins. The bee was the symbol of the Greek city of Ephesius. During the >Modern Times, coins and medals were strucked in the name of pope Urbanus >VIII (1623-1644) with the bees of his coat of arms. > >Symbols of prosperity, work and industry, the bee and the hive figure on = > a >lot of medals strucked from the Renaisance: peace medals, wedding medals.= >.. >The bees were also selected as the emblem of the secretaries of the king = >in >France. > >Of course, the collection contains also impressive worldwide series of >medals of societies of beekeepers. > >The catalogue will be presented on-line with pictures on our website at >http://www.elsen.be > >We would be pleased to send a free hard copy of the catalogue to any >interested person. May we ask you to contact us if you are interested in = >at >the following address: [log in to unmask] > >Yours sincerely > >Jean Elsen s.a. > >Business Hours : Monday to Saturday, 9 AM-6 PM Brussels time >We accept Visa, MasterCard, EuroCard > >------------------------------ > >Date: Fri, 17 Oct 1997 22:24:47 -0700 >From: Vince Coppola <[log in to unmask]> >Subject: Re: Adulterated Honey > >Peter Keating wrote: >> >> Hi Vince, >> a few years back Chinese honey was refused entry here into Canada because >> of both adulturation and contamination (with an acaricide). I have the >> reports that were presented to the Canadian Honey Council by Agriculture >> Canada and if you want, l could look for them and send you a copy. >> Yous, Peter > >Hi Peter, >This is the sort of thing I'm looking for. If it's not too much bother I >would like a copy of that report and will gladly pay postage. I heard >that Chinese honey is required to be warehoused, at importers expense, >untill it is tested by the Canadian goverment. Is that still true? Do >you know if adulturation or contamintion is found anymore? > Thank You, > Vince > >------------------------------ > >End of BEE-L Digest - 18 Oct 1997 to 19 Oct 1997 >************************************************