Dear Lactnetters, Thanks to all of you who clued me into WNL; usually I can figure the acronyms out from the situation they are being used in, but this one was tough for me. I was stuck on "it has to be 'with no...something' ", and had a real 'duh!' moment there when I got your responses. I appreciate all your kind comments and helpfulness. That's why Lactnet is so enjoyable! Ann Davis, LLLL, Dayton, Ohio [log in to unmask]