I think a message I sent to Jack privately went to lactnet anyway. I have several questions about tongue tie and clipping. Hope the questions don't stimulate the heat that the "circ thread" did. I just have several questions about doing the procedure: how painful it is to the neonate, how soon after the procedure infants nurse without discomfort. I haven't done the procedure frequently - have seen infants nurse successfully with short frenulums. Just thinking as an adult, when I cut something in my mouth, this is very uncomfortable and I don't eat well for a while. BTW apologies also for the empty post -I'm still plagued with bilateral carpal tunnel syndrome with thumb tenosynovitis (9 weeks after delivery). Just purchased a new ergonomic breakaway keyboard. It is taking some getting used to! Pierrette Mimi Poinsett MD FAAP Modesto CA