In a message dated 97-02-17 15:04:00 EST, you write: << I highly recommend Kittie's feeding charts; they are pocket sized laminated charts based on 108 kcal/oz (term babies) and 120 kcal/oz (premies) >> Mary Kay, I'm not sure I understand. What is 108 kcal/oz? Or 120 kcal/oz? Formula is about 20 kcal/oz... breastmilk is around that too -- allowing for individual variations in moms. I understood that for normal newborns, the requirement was 120 kcal/kg body weight/24 hours, and that as the baby grew, the requirements did go down somewhat. According to Chris Mulford, quoting a study based on doubly labeled water (whatever that is), breastfed babies need approximately 115 kcal/kg/day; at 1 mo, 110, 2 mo 105, 3 mo 100 & so on. But it looks as though there is a lot of disagreement -- the RDA's in the 1970's talked about 120 kcal/kg/day from 0-3 mo, and then 115 from 4-6 months. In 1985 the WHO decided on 109 (2-3 mo), 103 (4-5 mo) and so on. So, when figuring out how much a baby needs, we need to take into consideration his energy requirements as well as the caloric value of the brmilk. Remember, I posted about one mom that had her milk tested three times -- came back at 27 cal/oz; 29 cal/oz & 30 cal/oz. Don't think that baby needed much in the way of volume! Jan Barger htt://member.aol.com/bsccenter