MIDNITEBEE <[log in to unmask]> >http://www.cybertours.com/~midnitebee/ > And then there is the big Island Beekepers Association in Hilo on the big island of Hawaii. I have the secretary's name here someplace. Oh, yeah, it is Bob St. John- stjohn@interpac net. We meet 4 times a year at the University of Hawaii,Hilo