I think the dairy industry in most Western countries is a giant force to be reckoned with - farmers have to eat and they exist because we consume dairy products. I think of the methane that the cows are producing along with the milk and freak out. I bet we caneasily list lots of these national and multinational giants that influence our lives - many of them negatively. Yes. Paul Fleiss is Heidi's father, long messy story and he got dragged into it. Glad to see that he is doing well. This man was one of the first M.D.s to really spread the word and trained several other young doctors in Bf knowledge - he has done a lot for all of us. Thanks for the info on Jane Seymour, as the Israel BFHI co-ordinator, I will certainly make a few remarks to NY and Geneva - I think people just don't think. They probably use outside public relationsto organize things (am trying to give them an alibi). IVORY soap - bottles -weep - another part of my childhood is being shown up for its crass commercialism. Ros, are you going to arrange for a side tour of Tasmania when we get to the ILCA 2000 conf.? I too hope that it will be approved. So sorry about the young woman with the stroke - send her hope and love and just say that every drop of milk is blessed. Rehab people have thier minds on certain parts of the bodies and many times the staff has to just keep things together, can see where they wouldn't identify with such a 'strange idea' as Bfing/pumping. Also ,most of the patients are probably much older than this woman - so they really think these ideas are from another world. Keep trying to help - your concern alone will be a great morale booster. Evi - in suddenly it warmed up AGAIN Tel-Aviv