re foundation. With due respect to the rights of plastic foundation I make the following observation. Lasts year I used a combination of prodoucts for evaluation and thus had not hives that were 100 one product. I used (a) a all wax foundation with support wire, (b) plastic foundation with a coating of bees wax. and (c)some comlete frames and foundation of plastsic coated with beewax. Last year both (a) and (b) were well accepted and both brood and 6-5.8 inch frames came through the winter well. product(c) was not well accepted and it appears that they bees simply moved most sof the wax elsewhere and made little or no drawn cells. This spring I noted that the wax was gone from one side or large areas of (b) frames and was not replaced and in some cases one whole side would be lacking wax while the opposite side was in good condition and in use. I used one super with product (c) and it was totally ignored. Now we have the product evaluation. How about product support. Last summer I called the manufacturer of product (c) They would not take the product back even for review. Called them again to ask what would cause the bees to reject a foundation, how to correct the situation. . After three calls I got the message ,relayed from NZ, "recoat "them with melted cappings. Yes I had thought of that but my meager little three hives do not product enough capping to do that this fall. I suspect there is some phermome in the product that the bees dislike. Can not prove it. Now with respect to the problem with product (b) I got no useful information and denial that such a thing could happen. I know that I am not alone,have seen similar rejection of areas of (b) at local bee meetings, and total rejection in (c). We do know that some beekeepers are very happy with (b) and (c) . So for some the plastsic content is not a problem. If between the user and the manufacturer the problem can be resolved, then the industry will benefit. The firsdt thing to determine is in what areas have these products been successful and in what areas have they not been successful. If there is no area picture, is it the type of bee, could it be contamination of the surface. That there is a problem there is not doubt. The manufacturers must set up a program to determine the extent of the problem if they are to stay in business. The beekeepers need the simplicity of the type of product ,and the theretical longevity thereof. .