Hi Netters, You probably never quessed who this post was from. I finally can finish my Kenya trip. I just got back my 16 rolls of film which helped motivate me to get on lactnet. (Evi- picture of Grace came back beautifully. Will bring it to ILCA for you) So I flew into Nairobi and stayed one night. Following day I visited Nairobi hospital where the matron had fixed up a room for the maternity nurses to come (and flowers). We all shared experiences of breastfeeding, labor & delivery, etc. They are having the same problems with the mothers leaving early from the hospital and not getting enough education. I might have said in my last post that they try to stay away from fish when BF. I told them what myths US had, especially with foods and had asked what things they were told not to eat. Of course they had questions about collection and storage of milk. It was so refreshing to see women manually expressing their milk. One women did say she had a pump from the past baby, but I did not ask too many questions. As I was walking out of her room, she said "can I call you if I have any questions?" I very nicely said I was just visiting and sorta live far away. From then on I introduced myself as a nurse and LC from the US. I will send a care package to the matron that was interested in a bunch of new info and studies along with---- yes, Kathy Auerbach-- Your book "Breastfeeding and Human Lactation". Then we spent most of the rest of the trip on safaris. I did get a picture of a baby elephant attached to mom with her trunk, nursing. I plan to get a slide made. It is so cute. I was able to see a few of the other animals nursing, but couldn't get good pictures. I was in heaven. I talked to the various people about the animals and their habits, etc. The stories are wonderful. Maybe I can share some of them with you all that are going to ILCA. A baby giraffe drops 6 feet to his/her birth. That is their welcome into the world. A lion will copulate 200 times in 3 days. I have all these pictures of the lions all laying around sleeping. What a life. Baby elephants begin growing tusks at 2 years and that is when mom ends the breastfeeding. Then we flew to Masai Mara National Reserve. I talked with several Maasai warriors (which is what they are noted for) to find out the history and customs of their tribe. Fasinating tribe. I did get several slides there, including moms carrying their babies in slings. The only BF I saw outside the hospital was at the airports. It was wonderful, seeing people just sitting on the floors BF young and old babies. The one thing that stuck (and still sticks) in my mind is the tradition of circumcision. Men, you can skip over this part if you want. As soon as boys turn into men at 17 yrs, they are circumcised. Yes, they line up, and after having their heads shaved and go through the river, they are circumcised. They are couragous (it is a real test) if they do not curl their toes, move their eyes, yell, etc. If they do, they are not real men which is real significant later. And quess what ladies, women still do get circumcised there prior to marriage. The last day was spent with Grace, a wonderful women from Nairobi, Evi's friend. We had more fun walking, shopping, sharing stories, and finished off with dinner and the best cashew icecream sundae with mango sause. A trip I will never forget. A true dream come true. Looking forward to seeing you all in KS next week at ILCA. Pat Bull, RN, IBCLC The Breastfeeding Connection/Medela Naperville, IL