Folks, I don't normally post to the list that often, being a beginner I lurk in order to glean the wisdom of MOST of my fellow BEE-L members. But one person in particular has prompted me to post this message : Walter Patton. How DARE he condemn beekeepers like myself and the majority of listmembers who have to deal with the mites and diseases we encounter on a daily basis!! I'm all for difference of opinion, it's one of the things that make this list a valuable resource. Mr. Patton's posts do not seem to be springing from an honest difference of opinion, but from a childish "I'm better than you" type of mentality. In case you hadn't noticed, Mr. Patton, most of the beekeepers on this list try to find ways to HELP each other, rather than attack each other for having to deal with problems they've never had to face. Why don't you leave your "Paradise" for a while and see how the rest of us have to live before you start spouting your useless, inflammatory rhetoric!! Sorry to go off like this, but this last post really got to me!! Kevin Palm -- Kevin R. Palm | Beekeeper (1 hive, 2nd year) Grafton, Ohio | Red Dwarf/Babylon 5/NYPD Blue/ER/Pooh fan (25 miles SW of Cleveland) | Ivanova is God [log in to unmask] | Member IECC/IECG/NOST/WTECC