Brenda, Having been suffering from a very painful plugged duct for the past two days I would have been delighted to have had something like the gel-filled packs that could be for hot or cold use. I have something that is probably similar its a rectangle gel filled reusable hot/cold gel pack I bought from a birthi8ng supply catalog before the birth of my last baby for use on the perineum. think I'll look into what your talking about , if you find a source please let me know. Belinda Bohnert LLLLeader, mom to Joshua (6/84), Chapin (6/88), Gretchen (9/91), Annaliese (11/93). Married to Craig. In Indianapolis Indiana.