In the UK many small scale and hobby beekeepers keep honey in bulk containers and re-melt it before putting it in jars to sell. Often they use 28lb containers. (I use 5 litre second hand food containers which hold 16lb.) The usual method of re-melting is to use a warming cabinet, which is an insulated box with a door, a lightbulb at the bottom and a grill above for the container to stand on. Normally the honey is left in for about 24 hours. A certain amount of experimenting is needed to get the right power level to raise the honey to the correct temperature but no higher. You don't really need a thermostat since, ignoring changes in ambient temperature, the loss of heat through the walls of the cabinet is constant once equilibrium has been reached. Typically 60 to 100W is about right. A particularly economical method of making a cabinet is to use an old refrigerator with the pipework and compressor removed although American refrigerators in particular may be a bit large for many people. -- Malcolm Roe Phone : +44 1442 345104 Crosfield Electronics Ltd Fax : +44 1442 343000 Hemel Hempstead, Herts. HP2 7RH, UK E-mail : [log in to unmask] ------------------------------------------------------------------------