Hello to Anne A. and Diane W. as well as others I don't know as well. Finally decided to jump in instead of just reading everyone else's mail. I am Sharon Knorr coming to you from the frozen north (also known as Rochester, NY). After many years as a LLL Leader, I certified in 1986 (can't believe its time to take the exam again) and am presently teaching bf classes at a local hospital as well as sharing a private practice with Vivian Condello. We are both on the BOD of the RRBN (Rochester Regional Breastfeeding Network) which recently became a ILCA affiliate. The main role of RRBN is to provide education and support for local health professionals. Have not been able to attend the ILCA conference for several years now due to a conflict with our county fair (my daughter and I are heavily into 4H and county fair is the highlight of the year for most kids). It is great to be communicating again with many of the people I have met over the years but haven't seen for so long. Anyways, I have the reference for Margery about "perky breasts". From "The Politics of Breastfeeding" by Gabrielle Palmer, Pandora Press, Chap.3-Traditional Societies... - "Indeed in Papua New Guinea there is a dreaded curse that a witch may put on an enemy to make her breasts stay pert and upright like a young girl's forever." Used this book for research for a presentation at a LLL conference several years ago and have recommended it to everyone ever since. It is a real eye-opener for any of you wondering where all these bottles came from in the first place. Happy New Year!