There is available a homeopathic "medicine" known as Apis Mellifica which is an extract of whole bees prepared in alcohol and then diluted by many factors of 10 (presumably in water, this wasnt clear). This agent was claimed to work for ordinary bee sting discomfort, massive allergic reactions and also for long term desensitising. Has anyone heard of this before? Have I misunderstood ? Is it just non-substantiated rubbish, or what?? --------------------------------------------------------------- Anthony N. Morgan (Tony) Fax: +47 73 89 62 86 "Stavshagen" E-mail: [log in to unmask] Midtsandan Sor-Trondelag College 7563 MALVIK Elec. Eng. Department Norway 7005 TRONDHEIM, Norway ---------------------------------------------------------------- Well, that's how all the homeopathic remedies apparently work, something is diluted a great deal until only its "energy" is left (not my wording). I have no personal experience, but I wouldn't try the stuff if I were in the middle of a massive allergic reaction unless I were curious to see the next world. Liz Day [log in to unmask] Indianapolis, Indiana, central USA