I like BEE-L just the way it is. It gives a good mix of the hobbyist (me), professional and scientific camps. It's nice to hear from the scientists when we hear rumours of the "miracle cures". Likewise it's good to hear that the "big" guys have the same problems poor little me has. As for the fellow how said the scientists should go form their own list...WHAT THE HELL DO YOU THINK THIS IS?!?!? You might read the headers on your mail, the list is described as for the "discussion of bee biology". ***YOU*** my friend are on the list started by the *SCIENTISTS*, specifically the late Edward Southwick (who gave me the address and some good advice, I'm forever indebted to him) a *BEE RESEARCHER* at SUNY Brockport. If you want exclusively non-science related stuff, then go to alt.agriculture.beekeeping, what do you think we went thru the hassle of creating it for? ******************************************************************************** Dave D. Cawley | Only the economic organization is capable of setting University of Scranton | on foot a true political party of labor, and thus Scranton, Pennsylvania | raise a bulwork against the power of capital. [log in to unmask] | -Karl Marx ********************************************************************************