Anne-- Your message about the mothers who have a relationship with the pump but not their babies (at least not with babies at the breast) was especially pertinent today as I read it soon after getting off the phone with a potential client. She plans to give birth and pump and bottlefeed. Tough call as she had zillions of questions. She's not averse to trying the baby on the breast for the first few days (this is progress, I guess), but plans to just pump and bottle-feed afterwards. With a little luck she'll have a great time and want to keep at it. We also discussed much else and I suggested she come in for an information consult. where I can address all her concerns and she can have a look at the pumps I have available. Through the years I've had a few clients who preferred to pump and bottle-feed. While this is sad to me because I know what they're missing, I've decided to focus instead on the unselfishness these mums exhibit in being willing to at least pump their milk. I figure if they pump and bottle-feed for one baby, maybe they'll be willing to try to real thing next time if I give them the support they need and don't turn them off. And if they don't want to, they at least are not supporting the ABM industry and are providing the best product for their babies. Leslie Ayre-Jaschke, BEd, IBCLC Peace River Breastfeeding Clinic Peace River Alberta, Canada