I found being both to be very difficult an d frustrating so what I ultimately did was to stop leading meetings, stop taking phone calls as a leader and to then go on reserve. I could easily wear two hats, it was other people who had the problem. As an LLL leader, I never did home visits and I never touched anyone, as an LC my rle is clearly hands on, therapeutic and invloves my total committment to that clent until our relationship is officially ended. That puts me in a legal position that I prefer to not be in as a leader. I often felt discriminated against by other lll leaders. That because I was na LC and because I charged for services that I had betrayed them. I still don't get it. Some of the leaders who were the nastiest still give me dirty looks when they see me st conferences. I prefer to not have that kind of bad blood so in the interest of keeping a good rapport with the Leaders in my current city of residence, I chose to not be actively involved in League but to actively show my support for what they do as peer counselors. I do have strong opinions about what a leader should and should not do, which stem from my own experience of of being both and seeing the difference in the way i am educated as an LC and how I was educated as a LLL leader. Those strong opions helped me keep my hats straight. One of my guiding principles has always been to clearly regonize my limitations. This keeps me from crossing over some line out of ignorance. This is a challenging subject and I would like to know how others have handled it. Alison