Breast binding still occurs in lots of places. Old advice that refuses to die. One (male) ob whom I knew well (not in the Biblical sense!) and I had a nice chat about this practive over lunch one day. After he mentioned quite casually that he saw nothing wrong with the practice, I asked if he would consider the following practice: having a fully erectic penis and then binding it tightly to his leg and leaving it there for 3 days. His eyes got big and I detected movement below the table that he crossed his legs (very revealing body language, wouldn't you say?). "Well, uh, I don't think that would be all that comfortabel." "Thank you," I replied. NOne of his patients thereafter mentioned that he had suggested binding! (I think I got through to him). I do NOT recommend this approach when you are conversing with OBs/FPs who you do not know well. But if you have a good working relationship with them, you might try some variant on the same theme. The above example falls into the category of "get 'em where they live," I think. :-) Def. of LC service: "We are all faced with a series of great opportunities brilliantly disguised as impossible situations." Kathleen G. Auerbach,PhD, IBCLC - [log in to unmask]