Kathleen: My, my, my....you do find the right examples to get your point across! Even *I* found myself crossing my legs and squirming a bit when I read your suggestion to your dr. friend....and I don't even have a penis! R. (Kathleen wrote) >Breast binding still occurs in lots of places. Old advice that refuses to die. > >One (male) ob whom I knew well (not in the Biblical sense!) and I had a >nice chat about this practive over lunch one day. > >After he mentioned quite casually that he saw nothing wrong with the >practice, I asked if he would consider the following practice: having a >fully erectic penis and then binding it tightly to his leg and leaving it >there for 3 days. > >His eyes got big and I detected movement below the table that he crossed >his legs (very revealing body language, wouldn't you say?). > >"Well, uh, I don't think that would be all that comfortabel." > >"Thank you," I replied. > >NOne of his patients thereafter mentioned that he had suggested binding! >(I think I got through to him). > >I do NOT recommend this approach when you are conversing with OBs/FPs who >you do not know well. But if you have a good working relationship with >them, you might try some variant on the same theme. > >The above example falls into the category of "get 'em where they live," I >think.