Contents: 1.) Web access to BEE-l 2.) Email access to historical BEE-L discussions 3.) How to ensure the logs are not too large to save in future There are two ways now to read back issues of BEE-L. ~~~~~~~~ 1. ) BEE-l can presently be read on the Worldwide Web by pointing your brouser at http://www.internode.net:80/~allend/index.html This is a NEW URL. You can also still get there from http://www.cuug.ab.ca:8001/~dicka The National (USA) Honey Board Database is also there to brouse or download. If you have web access, either by PPP and a graphical brouser or by lynx (a UNIX brouser available on many UNIX shell accounts by typing the command 'lynx'), this is the fast, simple way to go. 2.) For those with no web access, logs are also available quite conveniently by email from [log in to unmask] However they only go back to 1994. Due to the increasing size of recent logs and limited space on the LISTSERV, the older logs have been displaced. To have a BEE-L log emailed to you: ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Just send a message with no subject (subject lines are ignored) to [log in to unmask] with the message GET BEE-L LOGMMYY Where MM is the month (ie. 05 for May) and YY is the year (ie. 95 for 1995). To get May 95, just type GET BEE-L LOG9505 Additional logs requested can be added on up to four more lines in your message. Be aware of the spacing of the words (No space in LOG9505, for example). Leave out any other text -- such as .signatures. Additional text - other than lines with additional commands -- will trigger harmless (but confusing to you) email error messages from the LISTSERV. The log will arrive some time later in your mailbox. Warning: logs can be 650 K in size. 3.)Therefore please edit your contributions to BEE-L and leave off long sigs: ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Please, everyone, when posting to BEE-L, consider the size of your .signature file and limit the amount of previous articles quoted to what is necessary to understand your comments -- Thanks. Some love their huge ascii art sigs, but generally netiquette frowns on them. Please edit out all signatures and unnecessary (irrelevant) parts of the quoted message whern you reply, to reduce the amount of material going into the logs. This will keep the size manageable. What uses up space? Entire blank lines use only one byte, so feel free to use lots of blank lines if it makes your message easy to read. For example the previous (empty) line used only one byte! Part lines use one byte for each character visible plus one, so they are not wasteful either. The above partial line is 21 bytes because I did not add any spaces after the '.' '>' alone on a line is only two bytes. However the blank spaces in signatures, used to space things out, count one byte per space, or up to eighty bytes per line. For example: my sig below uses 216 bytes (54 bytes per line times four lines). This is equivalent to one four line paragraph of text. So, please don't quote it when you quote me. I hope this info is useful and encourages more compact logs without discouraging people from posting -- after all the posts are what make this list interesting and useful. Enjoy. Allen W. Allen Dick, Beekeeper VE6CFK Rural Route One Swalwell Alberta Canada T0M 1Y0 Email: [log in to unmask] or [log in to unmask] Futures, Art & Honey:http://www.cuug.ab.ca:8001/~dicka