In a message dated 95-07-05 08:50:04 EDT, [log in to unmask] >P.S. I wonder if putting bee-go in the foundation/tree to drive the bees out would speed the process up. In my experience bee-go will not induce bees to leave brood or open honeycomb. Drumming is the only thing I know of. I have drummed bees from logs and trees, but in a wall, you'd have to find exactly where they are. We use drumming sometimes for package bees. It will just about empty the brood nest, including the queen. A rubber mallet works well, without damage, if you don't get too exuberant. The problem with cone trapping is that you do not get the queen or young bees, only the old ones that are the least valuable anyway. If you find wild colonies that are surviving without varroa treatment, you SURE do want that queen. [log in to unmask] Dave Green PO Box 1215, Hemingway, SC 29554