I was going through some of my bees today that had just come off cucumber pollination and noticed some strange symptoms. I saw dead larvae and pupae, usually confined to single frames in a hive, and the hive had a bad odor. I pulled honey June 1 and put on TM grease patties, have no history of AFB, and this stuff didn't rope. It doesn't look like EFB either. I have low to moderate Varroa infestations, having treated last fall, and I am about to treat again. Is anyone else seeing symptoms like this? I have a feeling it is the "mite complex" or whatever. I have requeened the worst hives, and going to give all concerned another shot of TM and Apistan. What do you guys think? Bill Lord Louisburg, NC -- WILLIAM G LORD E-Mail : wglord@franklin Internet: [log in to unmask] Phone : 9194963344