Hi: I apologize for the response to the list, but Barry sent me a message via the list, rather to me directly, and then did not include a signature (return e-mail line). Wishful thinking aside, my University's mail system drops the e-mail returns from the header, so you have to include one in your text. Barry asked about the bee transmitter developed at Oak Ridge by Howard Kerr ( not Evans ). I talked to Howard last week. Yes, the transmitter works, yes it is being distributed and used. No, it is not being used by biologists - too expensive. It is being used by another client for purposes totally different than its original intent. Jerry Bromenshenk The University of Montana [log in to unmask]